Hi Rapha\353l,

On 2003-06-16 at 0907.46 +0200, Rapha?l Quinet typed this:
> On Sat, 14 Jun 2003 14:33:21 -0400, Carol Spears <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Wilber is the name of the computer housed at berkeley.  
> > 
> > Looks like we will be planning what will become of Wilber tomorrow.
> > 
> > I apologize as this is short notice for something that is long overdue,
> > but there you go.
> What does that mean?  There was no discussion and no announcement about
> that.  Before anything is done, can we have a bit more information (and
> discussion, if possible) about what is going to happen?
one thing that i didn't mean was to ruffle any feathers.  sorry.  i am
going to go crazy if the newish site doesn't get moved.  There is a
whole bunch of disc space (right now) and if we wait and plan and work
through what will be done with it, it will never get done.

i asked for ideas and such.  at least i tried.  for instance, maybe
someone would like wilber to mirror gentoo.  i don't really know.  also,
i know so little of the possibilities.

three things that i am very very interested in is moving the site, the
wiki and i would really like to have a gimp organization blog working.
i am trying to write a plug-in for gimp that will produce the pages for

when a good plan gets sent about, you miss better ways maybe.

this is the time to mention anything you ever wished for from wilber, i
guess.  then some discussion about your wishes can happen.

there are a few sites that need a contributor.gimp.org, imo.  there are
probably some i have missed.

no one really gave me very much to go on, i am passing along everything
i got for this.  

> > Sorry about the weekend notice also, probably i followed the WrongMethod
> > like they did to notify poor Arthur Dent of his homes demise in the
> > first of the hitchiker books.  
> Yes, sending an unexpected announcement during the week-end is probably
> not the best way to communicate with those who are usually not on the
> 'net at that time.
well, as typical, we just got things started.  it was very difficult to
keep me on task.  i did some nominal cleaning to mmmaybe.  the gimp-help
from gimp-1.2 needs to be put into
http://mmmaybe.gimp.org/docs/gimp-docs/  and the developer doc need to
be put here: http://mmmaybe.gimp.org/docs/dev-docs/.  truthfully, by the
time i got them to build, i forgot what i was doing.  i might have
offended some along the way also.  one person cannot remember

but this is gimp stuff, there is plenty of time, but the sooner the

> > Please send your ideas or needs to this list or any other.
> But what is planned exactly?  It is difficult to send any ideas or needs
> if there is no information about what is going to happen, why and when...
> > Lets call this 24 hour notice.
> This is definitely too short, especially since there was no early warning
> nor discussion on any of the mailing lists (AFAIK).
okay, how about 2 weeks notice then.

or i can start with a plan on how we plan to divide up wilber ....


> On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 02:41:02 -0400, Carol Spears <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > we are moving things around on wilber.  if you have a directory there,
> > perhaps you should back things up.
> I won't be able to back up anything before Wednesday due to lack of time
> and disk space, so I hope that nothing is going to happen today.  
> Anyway, what is going to happen to Wilber?  What is going to happen to
> the web site?  In the last few days, I spent some time updating several
> pages, including the release notes for 1.2.4 and 1.2.5, the list of
> mirrors (web and ftp) and the pages describing how to install the GIMP.
> Do you mean that you want to remove the current web site without any
> discussion and without any planning?  The last discussion on the
> gimp-web list was in April (except for two messages that I CCed to the
> list in May, but that was not a discussion).  What is happening now,
> all of a sudden?
> > if you have any ideas, perhaps you should pipe up with them.
> What does this mean?
> -Rapha?l
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