Hi Kelly,

Though I basically agree with your opinion of the inferior Windows command
shell, IMHO that doesn't excuse important GIMP features from being
completely inoperable under Windows.  Inconvenient is one thing, impossible
another.  I can appreciate your strong desire to avoid a kludge workaround,
but at this point I'm not at all certain that the only possible solutions
are quite as bad as your comments would imply.  Never the less, I think that
we have both probably expressed our opinions adequately on these issues at
this point, and may simply have to agree to disagree in some respects, and
let other developers and users weigh in to help determine the best approach.

I just wanted to help make sure that some concerns from the Windows side of
the equation were voiced.  I'll back off now and let the discussion resume
between yourself and the other gimp gurus.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kelly Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Kevin Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 9:48 PM
Subject: Re: PDB named and default parameters (was Re: [Gimp-developer] The
Mark Shuttleworth offer)

> Kevin Myers wrote:
> > Hi Kelly,
> >
> > I understand your basic points, but...
> >
> > Admittedly, the Windows command prompt (not simply Explorer) is less
> > than most *nix command shells.  However, there are also a very large
> > of Windows based GIMP users, and one of the requirements of GIMP 2.x is
> > it should be as usable under Windows as it is on other operating
> > I'm not familiar with R5RS, and you could certainly be right in your
> > regarding that.  However, as a Windows GIMP user (and much more rarely a
> > GIMP bug, patch, fix, and enhancement contributor), I want to make sure
> > there isn't excessive *nix bias that inhibits or ignores usability needs
> > under Windows.
> Windows inhibits its own usability in this respect.  It is nearly
impossible to
> get imbedded quotes from the Windows command line.  This is a defect in
> Windows shell.  Getting around it would force us to use some weird
character for
> string quoting, which would be confusing to everyone.  In my opinion, the
> sacrifice is not worth the gain: we should not have to do something Weird
> Bizarre to cope with Microsoft's inferior product.
> Kelly
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