On 12/20/06, Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hi,

On Wed, 2006-12-20 at 18:52 +1030, David Gowers wrote:

> I already did so (and checked again just now). All but one of them are
> applicable as far as I can tell.

I've changed the tip based on your suggestion.

Actually, I was hoping that we could get rid of some tips for 2.4. In my
opinion there are way too many of them. I also see some tips that


Agreed. I've deleted some now (but don't know what a 'new user' is going to
want, really)

could
be improved. For example:


      When using a drawing tool (Paintbrush, Airbrush, or Pencil),
      Shift-click will draw a straight line from your last drawing
      point to your current cursor position.  If you also press Ctrl,
      the line will be constrained to 15 degree angles.

This works for more tools now than the ones that are listed here. Also,
do we still need this tip now that we have statusbar messages for this?
There are more tips that are now covered by the statusbar hints. Should
they be removed?


yeh, should have thought of that. sorry, tired.
Well, I agree that tip should be deleted; I don't even see how one could
readably list all the tools it applied to.

     You can use the middle mouse button to pan around the image, if
      it's larger than its display window.

We should probably point people to the spacebar here. And the second
part of the sentence seems superfluous to me.


Done.

     If your screen is too cluttered, you can press Tab multiple
      times in an image window to hide or show the toolbox and other
      dialogs.

What does "multiple times" mean here?


nothing. it's a toggle. fixed.

Should we add a tip about how to create sample points? This is currently
lacking a proper UI and the Ctrl-Drag from rulers is somewhat hard to
discover. If we added a tip, the feature would at least not be
completely unusable.


Probably. I think someone else ought to write that tip. I certainly don't
understand why anyone would want to use them.


Currently, I've deleted 3, merged 1, and fixed 1 tip.

and on another check

"      You can drag a layer from the Layers dialog and drop it onto the
     toolbox.  This will create a new image containing only that layer.
" is no longer true. I'm not sure why. I haven't removed it because it's
probably a regression that should be fixed in GIMP.


A diff from current CVS versus my version is attached, assuming the list
software didn't snarf it.
diff -upr old/gimp-tips.xml.in new/gimp-tips.xml.in
--- old/gimp-tips.xml.in	2006-12-20 20:31:33.000000000 +1030
+++ new/gimp-tips.xml.in	2006-12-20 21:04:12.000000000 +1030
@@ -99,16 +99,8 @@
   </tip>
   <tip level="intermediate">
     <_thetip>
-      When using a drawing tool (Paintbrush, Airbrush, or Pencil),
-      <tt>Shift</tt>-click will draw a straight line from your last drawing
-      point to your current cursor position.  If you also press <tt>Ctrl</tt>,
-      the line will be constrained to 15 degree angles.
-    </_thetip>
-  </tip>
-  <tip level="intermediate">
-    <_thetip>
-      You can use the middle mouse button to pan around the image, if it's
-      larger than its display window.
+      You can use the middle mouse button to pan around the image 
+      (or optionally hold <tt>Spacebar</tt> while you move the mouse instead.)
     </_thetip>
   </tip>
   <tip level="intermediate">
@@ -150,13 +142,6 @@
   </tip>
   <tip level="intermediate">
     <_thetip>
-      You can press or release the <tt>Shift</tt> and <tt>Ctrl</tt> keys
-      while you are making a selection in order to constrain it to a
-      square or a circle, or to have it centered on its starting point.
-    </_thetip>
-  </tip>
-  <tip level="intermediate">
-    <_thetip>
       You can adjust or move a selection by using <tt>Alt</tt>-drag.
       If this makes the window move, your window manager uses the
       <tt>Alt</tt> key already. Try pressing <tt>Shift</tt> at the same
@@ -213,18 +198,15 @@
       up the menu, selecting a menu item, and pressing the desired key
       combination. If &quot;Save Keyboard Shortcuts&quot; is enabled, the
       key bindings are saved when you exit GIMP.
+      You should probably disable &quot;Dynamic Keyboard Shortcuts&quot; 
+      afterwards, to prevent accidentally assigning/reassigning shortcuts.
     </_thetip>
   </tip>
   <tip level="advanced">
     <_thetip>
-      If your screen is too cluttered, you can press <tt>Tab</tt> multiple
-      times in an image window to hide or show the toolbox and other dialogs.
-    </_thetip>
-  </tip>
-  <tip level="advanced">
-    <_thetip>
-      You can adjust the selection range for fuzzy select
-      by clicking and dragging left and right.
+      If your screen is too cluttered, you can press <tt>Tab</tt> 
+      in an image window to toggle the visibility of the toolbox 
+      and other dialogs.
     </_thetip>
   </tip>
   <tip level="advanced">
@@ -235,19 +217,14 @@
   </tip>
   <tip level="advanced">
     <_thetip>
-      <tt>Ctrl</tt>-click on the layer mask's preview in the Layers dialog
-      toggles the effect of the layer mask.
-    </_thetip>
-  </tip>
-  <tip level="advanced">
-    <_thetip>
-      <tt>Alt</tt>-click on the layer mask's preview in the Layers dialog
-      toggles viewing the mask directly.
+      <tt>Ctrl</tt>-clicking on the layer mask's preview in the Layers dialog
+      toggles the effect of the layer mask. <tt>Alt</tt>-clicking on the layer 
+      mask's preview in the Layers dialog toggles viewing the mask directly.
     </_thetip>
   </tip>
   <tip level="advanced">
     <_thetip>
-      You can use <tt>Alt</tt>-<tt>Tab</tt> to cycle through all layers in
+      You can use <tt>Ctrl</tt>-<tt>Tab</tt> to cycle through all layers in
       an image (if your window manager doesn't trap those keys...).
     </_thetip>
   </tip>
@@ -255,6 +232,8 @@
     <_thetip>
       <tt>Ctrl</tt>-click with the Bucket Fill tool to have it use
       the background color instead of the foreground color.
+      Similarly, <tt>Ctrl</tt>-clicking with the eyedropper tool 
+      sets the background color instead of the foreground color.
     </_thetip>
   </tip>
   <tip level="advanced">
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