On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 19:19:06 +0200, Hal V. Engel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  

> On Saturday 14 April 2007 08:04, Chris Puttick wrote:
>> Hi
>> Forgive me if I have missed this information, but can someone give an
>> estimate for the release of 2.4? We are trying to move to open source
>> throughout the organisation, but the graphics team are solidly stuck to
>> Adobe Photoshop and Gimp 2.4 seems the most likely candidate to replace  
>> it.
>> Unless the list thinks that 2.4 would not be a candidate to replace
>> Photoshop?
>> Thanks for your help.
>> Regards
>> Chris

Release dates don't really exist for Gimp. I asked this same question last  
September and got the same polite silence.

Due to the nature of Gimp development the new release happens when the  
work is done, rather than setting a target date and trying to get it out  
of the door on time. Development cycles tend to be rather long in general  
so you should probably follow Hal's comments and determine what you need  
and what can or can't be done with Gimp.

One key thing to bear in mind when doing this is that Gimp does not aim to  
be a free clone of Photoshop. Some things are done differently and while  
the basic tasks are often similar the feature sets are different and  
things are often done differently. There are some things you can do with  
PS that you can't do with Gimp and vice versa.

As he said you really need one of your graphics team to determine any  
important tasks that you cant manage to do with gimp and ask. It may  
simply be that you have not discovered how to do the task or it may add  
impetus to finish a feature in development.


> Chris,
> There is not nearly enough information in your post to answer that  
> question.
> It depends entirely on the requirements of your graphics team.  For  
> example,
> if they work only with 8 bit/channel images then gimp 2.4 might be a good
> candidate to replace Photoshop.  But if they work with 16 bit/channel  
> images
> then it is not.  But there are lots of other things that need to be
> considered and your note does not have any information on any if these
> variables.
> I would think that the best thing to do would be to find someone on your
> graphics team who is open minded enough to not get hung up on the  
> differences
> in the UI who will actually evaluate the available functionality and  
> give an
> assessment of what things your shop requires and how close current GIMP
> development is to meeting your needs.  However it might be difficult to  
> find
> someone who will be able to look past the UI differences.  If at that  
> point
> you find that there are features that your graphics team uses and NEEDS  
> that
> are missing from GIMP 2.3.x (and presumably 2.4 since the feature set is
> close to being frozen) then you could follow up with the GIMP developers  
> to
> make sure those things end up in the next version.  You might even  
> consider
> having your organization sponsor (IE. fund) some of that work to ensure  
> that
> the next release meets your needs.
> Also keep in mind that there are other open source tools for doing  
> graphics
> work that might also complement GIMP and provide functionality that your
> graphics team needs.  In other words it might not be GIMP that ends up
> replacing Photoshop but GIMP plus some other tools and you need to  
> consider
> your whole graphics work flow to be able to answer the question of how  
> you
> will go about replacing Photoshop with open source software.
> Also on a side note I see on your web site that there is at least one  
> stitched
> mosaic of photos.  If you are not already using open source tools for  
> this
> work might I suggest you try Hugin, enblend and autopano-SIFT.  In fact  
> this
> suite of tools would have done a significantly better job then what I  
> saw on
> your web site for the image next to "HERITAGE" on your Services page.
> Hal
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