On Mon, 2009-09-07 at 09:50 +0200, peter sikking wrote: > Liam wrote: > > > Right now gimp is broken for working on multiple projects (the > > file/save changes have rendered it too hard to keep track of > > where images are being "exported") but the use case is central > > (I think) to how "single window" needs to work. > > > OK, I am listening. > > can you explain to me how this worked better in 2.6?
First, note that I said "right now" -- although strictly speaking I should have said a month ago, I need to update. So there are some unfinished details, and some of these don't matter too much individually but add up, rather like the chairs at MacDonalds, designed to be comfortable only for twenty minutes... The biggest problems I have right now -- and I know ways to address the biggest have been discussed -- are (1) "file->export as" (regardless of what it's called) goes to the wrong directory: it needs default to the same directory as "save as", that is, the directory with the original-precious-image. I could happily live with a preference for default export directory, but "My Documents" really, really doesn't cut it outside of a family's computer for saving snapshots... (Desktop would be as bad) (2) there's no menu in the toolbox, and if you have the toolbox and no image window, you have to open a minimsed image window just to get to file->new Use case: . scan an image. Maybe export it to scannd-images/Vesalius/raw-pages/folio309.png for archiving. Work on it, off and on, during the course of the day. Save it to scanned-images/Vesalius/cleaned/folio309.png for archiving when done, and then (maybe an hour or two later) make 5 jpeg images at different sizes, all to be exported to scanned-images/Vesalius/jpeg/ . Meanwhile, use "open image in gimp" on an interesting photo of a rock that someone pasted into IRC. Hmm, let's try levels->auto on that and export to /tmp (or Desktop, don't care) to send back for a discussion about the algorithm . at the same time I'm editing a photo I took for work, but that's on hold for an hour waiting someone to get back from lunch . I work on the photo for a bit. Then I minimise it so I have the scan and the work photo minimised in the task bar, and the rock photo open. I edited it, export it (where?) and close it. . Now I just have the GIMP toolbox visible, and no image windows. . The person at work is back but wants me to try something new, so I have to make a new image. Hmm, I have a gimp toolbox but no File menu, that's fucked. Let's have at least a right-click menu on the toolbox drop area please, with File and Window. . Now I go to save (or export) that Vesalius scan. Is it the first time I've exported? can't tell. Where does it want to put the image? My Bloody Documents. So now I find a terminal window, navigate to th directory with the Vesalius images, do "pwd", copy the result, and paste it into the file chooser and hit enter. Oops, overwrote the filename, hit cancel and start again. It's fun, this. . OK, back to the work photo, time to do file->export. Where will it go? Where was I when I was working on it? So I'm working in parallel on several different projects, each with their own folders, and I'd actually be just as happy in many ways with three entirely separate gimp instances... and starting an entirely new gimp for a new image so I'd get the menus. Sorry for a long posting, I hope it's a bit clearer. There are some other details like the export dialogues having 'save" instead of "overwrite" or "export" on them that might already have been fixed. A pull-down of active and recent directories on the file choosers would help, but not as much as having bookmarks + the current image's export directory starting off the same as the import or save directory. A final note -- I scale the image, export as jpeg, sharpen, scale again, sharpen come back half an hour later and want to know at which points I exported as jpeg; with 2.4, I could undo repeatedly until the * in the image window went away, and that was when I'd saved as png. An icon in the undo history would help a lot here. Hope this helps! Liam -- Liam Quin - XML Activity Lead, W3C, http://www.w3.org/People/Quin/ Pictures from old books: http://fromoldbooks.org/ Ankh: irc.sorcery.net irc.gnome.org www.advogato.org _______________________________________________ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer