On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 05:34:13PM -0700, Carol Spears wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 11:20:14PM +0000, Øyvind Kolås wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 10:28 PM, Jacek Poplawski
> > <jacekpoplaw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 8:47 PM, Charlie De <charlieco...@yahoo.com> 
> > > wrote:
> > >> Why?? Rupert Weber finished this last September and you promised it 
> > >> would be in
> > >> 2.8. Is this how you show respect for the most stellar effort by a new 
> > >> talent?
> > >> Shame, truly, shame on you. It's now been 5 years since the issue was 
> > >> first
> > >> reported, you're going to add another year even though the work is done. 
> > >> That
> > >> is, if you don't break your promise again. Where's your integrity?
> > >
> > > This is very sad.
> > 
> > I am not among the people working on GIMP itself - in the context of
> > GIMP is primarily do work on GEGL - but I can tell both of you that
> > this type of email does not serve to motivate any developer. At best
> > they ignore it; at worst they get discouraged and decide that spending
> > some of their spare time contributing to the common good/free
> > software/GIMP is not worth it.
> > 
> interesting, this because when GIMP was being developed by many people 
> seemingly happily so, it was the quality of the patch or plug-in or the 
> script,
> not the flavor of the ass-kissing or the style of the request.
> it is the left brained people (artists and such) who are in need of constant
> appreciation and reassurance to happily "do the right thing" or to "continue
> to do the job as was described" but the right brained people, the more 
> technically adept don't need so much of the "obvious appreciation".
> this easy description of two different kinds of people starts to fail when a 
> "right brained" seems to be needing the reassurance that the artistic sort do
> but actually just wants enough credit to continue their work and pay bills and
> to participate in the community that they are or have been serving in.
> i have worked with actors, for instance -- in a place where actors should be,
> btw.  it doesn't take much to tell these creative sort that they are really
> doing well, etc etc.  no, actually it does take much.  it takes familiarity 
> with their work and knowlege of their improvement.
> interestingly enough, the right-brainers enjoy this also.  they often fail to
> know how to receive the appreciation.
> something has interfered with the right-brained people having access to both
> bugzilla and the source, perhaps.  maybe "actors" where they should not be?
> i have been waiting for more than a week for a bug to be closed which should
> be closed, for instance.  it might be the only way to communicate with the
> developers right now, but if the developers are not looking at bugzilla, then
> they will probably have to manage upset contributors with patches when they
> loose patience and write to this list.
> or, the obviously broken bug reporting interface that has been suggested 
> should
> be replaced with one that does what it is supposed to do.


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