Marc wrote:
> So... I am not against this change, but I also see no reason to do it,
> especially since that makes gimp different to other apps, and I think
> there should be a very good reason for this.

Since all GNOME apps have the help menu rightmost but not seperated from 
the other menus, we wouldn't be the only app that does it this way...

On a related subject, I want to express that I'm not very content with the
latest changes to the toolbox since it is now impossible to have a 
horizontal toolbox with the colorselectors at the right side. 
The default setup we shipped with until now was never intended to be a
solution, since having 3 columns of icons with the selectors packed to the
right wastes a lot of space. So this setup was more or less an accident.

IMHO there are only two useful setups: One is to have the toolbox vertically
layed out with the tools in 3 columns and the selectors below. Alteratively
you could (can't anymore) lay it out horizontally with 2 rows of tools and
the selectors placed to the right. I know the old setup was broken from the 
beginning, but the recent changes IMHO render the whole idea of having a 
configurable toolbar useless.

I'd vote for the following solution: Completely get rid of the interactive
resizing (since it obviously can't be fixed to work correctly) and offer 
two alternative layouts (as described above) which are switchable from the 
preferences dialog. The horizontal layout would have a Help menu and probably
even a Dialogs menu, while the vertical layout would add these as entries to 
the File menu (or probably Xtns for the Help menu).

I think it should be possible to switch the layout on the fly by providing 
the necessary containers and reparent the contents between them, but if it
turns out to be undoable, I guess users could even live with the need to
restart The GIMP for the change to take place. From my experience you don't
change the layout too often once you've found your favorite. 

Salut, Sven

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