Hello Jehan. Thank you. I subscribed (this time I did it). Ok. Got it. I'll place the 2.9 text only. I'll send the images soon. Thanks a lot again.
Fulvio. Il 02 ott 2017 8:34 PM, "Jehan" <je...@girinstud.io> ha scritto: Hi Fulvio, Sorry I didn't see your 2 last emails from Thursday until now. I just discovered them in my spam box. Also you should really subcribe to the mailing list and send there. If it had been there, I would have seen it immediately. And also someone is proposing us another dev splash screen right now on IRC. So I guess whoever can gives us a finale image first will be featured next. I don't know… (but I'm sure we'll have at least 2 more dev releases anyway) On 2017-09-28 12:29, Fulvio Massimo Mariani wrote: > Hello Jehan. > > I checked the font and it is released under the “SIL Open Font > License”, as shown in > https://www.fontsquirrel.com/license/panefresco [1] > > > So it is free to use. > Ok. About the image copyrights I’d choose CC by-sa: > https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/ [2] > Ok. So it will be kept free. > > About the Stable/Dev version… > > I thought about it. I got more self-confidence about the image. So > proposing it for the stable version is ok too. > > What do you think? > I don't really want to discuss the stable version right now because I am not the only one to decide. We'll have to discuss what we should do then. So I don't want to say anything which would give false hopes. Please check the texts in the image, tell me what to insert/correct or > remove (these ones I put below the logo itself and the number of the > release). > The version is: 2.9.6 (2 dots). Also for the next release, it would be 2.9.8 (and next again, 2.9.10). You could also just write 2.9. Then you don't have to bother. Also I don't think the copyright text is really necessary under the image. Once done I’ll refine a little the image and I’ll send it to you > in various formats and dimensions. > Ok. Thanks. Jehan About my name for the CC specs: > > Fulvio Massimo Mariani > > Looking forward to hearing from you. > > Fulvio. > > Inviato da Posta [3] per Windows 10 > > DA: Jehan > INVIATO: martedì 26 settembre 2017 13:54 > A: FMM > OGGETTO: Re: R: [Gimp-gui] Suggestion about the loading window > > > On 2017-09-26 02:37, FMM wrote: > > Hello Jehan, >> > > Thanks for the answer. Glad it looked nice. >> > > What a difficult question! >> > > Due to the fact that I'm a completely new contributor and in your >> > team > > you probably have artists with whom you had long term >> > collaborations, > > I'd like to run for a dev release, it would be great enough for me. >> > In > > the case people will go crazy for this splash, and you'll absolutely >> > > want it (or its mood) for the 2.10, in this case we'll update the >> > > splashscreen or find a solution, but again, the dev is ok for me. >> > > Anyway I'll try to contact the guys that made the font, just to be >> > > 100% sure that it can be freely used. >> > > Ok tell me when you are sure, and then I'll ask Mitch to have your > > splash as the next image. > > For the image license, sure there is no problem. >> > > Which license do you choose? If you don't know these well, here are > > links: > > - CC by-sa: https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/ > > Basically similar to GPL (GIMP license) in that you ask people to keep > > > your authorship and derivative are allowed as long as they keep the > same > > license. > > - Free Art: http://artlibre.org/licence/lal/en/ > > Basically same as CC by-sa (even compatible now). > > - CC by: https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ > > You only ask for keeping your authorship, and allow derivatives to be > in > > any license the reuser wishes. > > - CC 0: https://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/ > > You don't even care about your authorship anymore. That's basically > some > > kind of public domain-like license. > > Any of these will be fine for an artwork in our repository. > > Regards, > > Jehan > > I'll give updates soon about the font. >> > > >> > Have a nice day. >> > > Fulvio. >> > > >> > Il 26 set 2017 1:49 AM, "Jehan" <je...@girinstud.io> ha scritto: >> > > >> > Hi Fulvio! >>> >> > >>> > On 2017-09-26 01:16, Fulvio Massimo Mariani wrote: >>> >> > >>> > Hello, Jehan. >>>> >>> > >>>> > I worked on a spashscreen, and i try to submit it. >>>> >>> > >>>> > This is what i got. >>>> >>> > >>>> > Facing the composition of this Gimp icon was a pleasure to me. >>>> >>> > >>>> > It is a simplification/stylization of the original Gimp logo. >>>> >>> > >>>> > I used a font called Panefresco, that should be free to use. >>>> >>> > >>>> > Hope you’ll like it. >>>> >>> > >>> > This splash is neat. I could propose you to just commit it for the >>> >> > next development splash screen (I'll ask Mitch, the maintainer, >>> >> just > > to be sure, but I'm sure that's ok). If you prefer your work to be >>> >> > featured on the stable (2.10) splash screen though, I cannot >>> >> promise > > it at this point because I guess many people would want this. And >>> >> if > > we were to do just direct decision, maybe we should promote the >>> >> > artists who contributed a lot. >>> >> > >>> > Maybe better, we could do a contest for the next stable splash >>> >> > screen, or something like this. I don't know yet. >>> >> > >>> > So do you want just to go for the next dev release? Or you want to >>> >> > hold on your design for now and hope for it to be in stable? >>> >> > >>> > Oh and by the way, we can accept only Libre Art for the official >>> >> > splashscreen. Which means you will be asked to agree to license >>> >> your > > image something suitable (for instance Creative Commons BY-SA or BY >>> >> > or 0, or Free Art licenses…). >>> >> > Anyway nice work. Thanks! >>> >> > >>> > Jehan >>> >> > >>> > GIMP! >>> >> > >>> > Have a nice day. >>> >> > >>> > Fulvio. >>> >> > >>> > Inviato da Posta [1] per Windows 10 >>> >> > >>> > DA: Jehan >>> >> > INVIATO: domenica 24 settembre 2017 00:51 >>> >> > A: gregory grey >>> >> > CC: gimp-gui-list@gnome.org; Fulvio Massimo Mariani >>> >> > OGGETTO: Re: [Gimp-gui] Suggestion about the loading window >>> >> > >>> > Hi, >>> >> > >>> > On 2017-09-23 14:04, gregory grey wrote: >>> >> > >>> > Some stuff in https://www.gimp.org/about/splash/ [1] [3] is just >>> >> > >>> > atrocious. Pretending you don't see that yourself is just >>> >> > insulting. >>> >> > >>> > Where did I say anything like this? Where did I even say anything >>> >> > about >>> >> > >>> > the art at all. I haven't given my opinion on the artworks there, >>> >> > and >>> >> > >>> > that's on purpose. >>> >> > >>> > To be clear, I am not fond of some of the splash screens either, >>> >> > but >>> >> > >>> > that's ok. That's not for me (or others) to be the policymaker of >>> >> > what >>> >> > >>> > is good or not. >>> >> > >>> > Anyway you should consider that putting words in other people's >>> >> > mouth >>> >> > >>> > can also be considered as "insulting". >>> >> > >>> > You do realize that "fun" and "7 years old level of aesthetics" is >>> >> > not >>> >> > >>> > the same? One of the things I dig about Darktable is that I can >>> >> > show >>> >> > >>> > it to PS/LR users without being laughed at. >>> >> > >>> > I don't understand what you want to "show". When we work on >>> >> > projects, >>> >> > we >>> >> > >>> > don't show our programs. Nobody care about the programs we use. >>> >> > They >>> >> > >>> > only consider the finale artwork. >>> >> > >>> > Also calling other people's artworks "atrocious" and "7 year old >>> >> > level >>> >> > >>> > of aesthetics" can also be considered "insulting", can't it? >>> >> > >>> > It's the icons story all >>> >> > >>> > over again. >>> >> > >>> > I don't understand this kind of statement. >>> >> > >>> > GIMP is made by everyone who wants to contribute. We are seriously >>> >> > >>> > undermanned (I would say "understaffed", but since there are no >>> >> > salaries >>> >> > >>> > for anyone, and the only 2 people — Pippin and I — who are >>> >> > trying >>> >> > to get >>> >> > >>> > crowdfunded get bare minimum, that would not be proper to call >>> >> > anyone >>> >> > >>> > "staff"). >>> >> > >>> > Anyone is more than welcome to contribute code, icons, themes, >>> >> > >>> > documentation, website text and images, tutorials, splash screen, >>> >> > their >>> >> > >>> > time, their skills, and more… >>> >> > >>> > So yeah as a conclusion, there are no "stories". Please if anyone >>> >> > has >>> >> > >>> > propositions to improve things, be our guests. Contribute. Send >>> >> > patches >>> >> > >>> > and stuff. This would be more constructive. But please let's >>> >> > refrain >>> >> > >>> > from insulting others and their work. >>> >> > >>> > Thanks. >>> >> > >>> > Jehan >>> >> > >>> > On Sep 23, 2017 2:37 AM, "Jehan" <je...@girinstud.io> wrote: >>> >> > >>> > Hi, >>> >> > >> > >>>> > >> > On 2017-09-22 16:29, Fulvio Massimo Mariani wrote: >>>> >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > Hello. >>> >> > >> > >>>> > >> > For the record, I had to manually accept your email because you >>>> >>> > are >>>> >>> > >> > not subscribed to the mailing list. If you want further emails to >>>> >>> > be >> > > >> > directly sent to the list subscriber (and not bother admins who >>>> >>> > have >> > > >> > to manually accept emails), please consider subscribing: >>>> >>> > >> > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-gui-list [2] [2] >>>> >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > My name is Fulvio. >>> >> > >> > >>> > >> > I’ve been a Gimp fan since a lot of time ago (I’m a graphic >>> >> > >> > designer and I do not how to use Photoshop, consider this). >>> >> > >> > >>> > >> > I just downloaded the 2.9 version of the software and checked the >>> >> > >> > new >>> >> > >> > features and UI. >>> >> > >> > >>> > >> > All looks nice (and font loading is now much faster), but please, >>> >> > >> > and >>> >> > >> > this is the purpose of the post, consider to use a neat, minimal >>> >> > >> > Logo >>> >> > >> > opening. The actual loading window is not at the level of the >>> >> > >> > software >>> >> > >> > and its specs. Look for a designer to draw and compose a >>> >> > >> > minimal/material Design for your app loading screen, because of >>> >> > >> > the >>> >> > >> > perception of the app starts from this screen (the actual loading >>> >> > >> > window is not goo, really). >>> >> > >> > >>>> > >> > I assume you mean the splash image? What don't you like in it? >>>> >>> > That >>>> >>> > >> > it is not serious enough? >>>> >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > Though in theory I don't really disagree that some kind of fancy >>>> >>> > >> > "simple/minimal" design can be nice, I don't believe this to be >>>> >>> > that >> > > >> > important. We had by the past people wanting to make GIMP a >>>> >>> > >> > "product", something "professional looking" and whatnot. And this >>>> >>> > >> > one experience I am thinking about was not a pleasant experience >>>> >>> > to >>>> >>> > >> > me, at all. In the end, I appreciate that some people can have >>>> >>> > some >>>> >>> > >> > fun while making GIMP (especially since it's done on most parts as >>>> >>> > >> > voluntary work) rather than making boring corporate images. As >>>> >>> > long >>>> >>> > >> > as the software itself is actually good, professional and does >>>> >>> > well >>>> >>> > >> > what it is supposed to do, does it really matter that the splash >>>> >>> > >> > image is usually a fun image contributed by various artists? >>>> >>> > >> > This is even more true for 2.9 which is a dev version (therefore >>>> >>> > >> > allows even more fun), but even stable versions used to have more >>>> >>> > or >> > > >> > less interesting/funny designs: https://www.gimp.org/about/splash/ >>>> >>> > [1] >>>> >>> > >> > [3] >>>> >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > This being said, as I said, our splash screens are indeed >>>> >>> > >> > contributed by various artists and we definitely welcome more >>>> >>> > >> > contributions there. If you want to propose a splash for a next >>>> >>> > dev >>>> >>> > >> > version, please be our guest. Next splash could be yours. :-) >>>> >>> > >> > Yet know that it won't stop us from also accepting other funky >>>> >>> > >> > splash images when they will be contributed as well. >>>> >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > Have a nice day. >>> >> > >> > >>> > >> > I just wanted to suggest something) >>> >> > >> > >>>> > >> > Thanks for this. This mailing list is indeed the right venue to >>>> >>> > >> > propose a splash screen for a further version. >>>> >>> > >> > We look forward to any contribution from you or any artist >>>> >>> > >> > (painter, designer, photograph…) who has an idea for a nice >>>> >>> > splash >> > > >> > screen. :-) >>>> >>> -- ZeMarmot open animation film http://film.zemarmot.net Patreon: https://patreon.com/zemarmot Tipeee: https://www.tipeee.com/zemarmot
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