Hi Elle Stone,
On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 7:10 PM Elle Stone <ellest...@ninedegreesbelow.com> wrote: > It seems to me that "it" depends entirely on what a person actually uses > GIMP for. Speaking for myself, I don't even have Inkscape, Scribus, or > SwatchBooker installed on my computer. Instead I use GIMP for painting > and photography, in conjunction with RawTherapee, darktable, PhotoFlow, > Krita, Hugin, Exiftool, digiKam, etc, etc. > > How would your proposed changes to GIMP cohere with workflows that don't > involve DTP and instead center around other tasks and goals for which > people use GIMP, such as photography/painting/HDR processing/fits/fine > art print production/video display output/image retouching, and etc? > I agree and understand well. Changing something for particular kind of users (DTP users) leaving others (Digital artists& Photographers) that what I don't mean. Even I don't saying to change everything to give consistence. I understand how much difficult to do that. Even changing something can create problems to exiting users how they use these programs in which way. > > > 3. Different Task Flow > > 4. Different Tools Manipulators Flow(can create understanding problem) > > Could you elaborate more on what you mean by "task flow" and "tools > manipulators flow"? > > It's not clear to me that a program like GIMP - which is used for such a > hugely diverse array of editing tasks and output goals - should be or > even could be optimized/shoe-horned into a set task flow. > These points tends to hard to explain without going on deep research on each programs but I will try to explain in much simple way. What a user want from these programs is their goal(final image vector, raster, pdf, etc). Now Goals are divided into activities which in turn divided into tasks which again divided into actions. Now lets take an example for aligning objects, In GIMP, align options you will find in tool box. In Inkscape, align options it is dialog access from object menu. In Scribus, it is in dialog access from window menu. Now the task is same but actions are different for each application. Which will create confusing for first time users where to find align options. Now I am not saying about complete UI, I am approaching to little details that can solve for consistency. But I can't say which approach is better. For that purpose only, I have share idea for having a website (common communication channel ) for creative applications so users can share ideas where he can get feedback and vote for their features and share how to solving existed approach (like blender community right click select). > > > 5. One have that feature another not and etc. > > 6. (Everything that create inconsistency in these applications) > > Why do you want all these programs to have the same features? > > Do you want to throw away the "not in common" features? Or do you want > to add all the features from all the programs to all the programs? > > No No, I am not saying to bundle all the features to all the application so it hard to distinguish what is for what purpose. It is set of some common features that some or these graphics programs can share. Let's say I really like to have GIMP perspective tool in Inkscape. Maybe, In future someone added perspective tool in Inkscape but it did't behave like GIMP perspective tool. It some 3d circular manipulator(like 3d software have for scaling rotating). >From all these years, each team has approach to their own way of doing things. Maybe in future these teams approach same way of doing things by having and finding ideas from one website that is center communication for all these graphics applications. > > I don't know about Scribus or Inkscape. But GIMP interface is already > highly configurable, and "DTP-oriented" configurations could be > distributed as config files and themes/icons. > > If the already available array of configuration options for GIMP isn't > sufficient to set GIMP up for use in an envisioned seamless DTP > workflow, then a specific list of what's missing would be a good place > to start. > > Which brings the discussion around to Jehan's awesome idea of being able > to easily exchange files between programs. The ability to easily > exchange files between programs is something that would make imaging > workflows in general (not just DTP workflows) considerably easier. It > would be awesome to have the option to easily switch back and forth > between different applications, for example sending a flattened version > of the current image from GIMP to Krita to RawTherapee and back to GIMP, > etc, or from Scribus to GIMP and back, or etc. > Yes, Even Jehan's Idea is a part to give consistency. Like same way their is lot's of way to follow but for all these atleast we need common hub communication for discussions between these teams and users. What is the need of saying these all to one team if another teams and users have just unaware of it. Ok, Developers want to solve specific bug report and feature request maybe that feature is common feature and it can benefit all these graphics applications but never discussed before that how it works and just added in one program. Maybe other have implemented the same feature with changes how it works. These things can be discussed other teams. Thanks Vikash
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