Thanks, everyone, for your help with this issue. I’m working with a jpeg that is 450x568 pixels @ 72 ppi/4.7x5.9”. I would like the dimensions to be 2.5” x 5.9”. When I resize it without maintaining the aspect ratio (so I can make it longer than that would allow), you can tell that the image has been stretched and it doesn’t look right (which is what I meant by “distorted.”)
Maybe it’s not possible to make an image longer in this way without giving it that fun house mirror look, but I could have sworn I read online (maybe from the same guy who recommended gimp 2.4?) that it’s better to make a smaller image larger than to try to make a larger image smaller. That seemed counterintuitive to me as, like Liam mentioned, I’d be asking the image to invent detail that isn’t already present. Was my hunch correct? I apologize if these are kindergarten questions. As you may have guessed, I am not of the IT or graphic design world and am just stumbling around with the basics at the moment. Just got a book called Beginning GIMP that I’ll be reading soon. I do not have Linux. There is another version of this image I can purchase that is larger (1200x1514 px @ 300 ppi). Should I just buy this and shrink it? It's a bit spendy, but maybe that would be a lot easier? Or should I try to get GIMP 2.8 and see if by some miracle I can make my smaller image bigger without sacrificing quality? Thanks again! On Mon, Aug 6, 2018 at 5:00 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Send gimp-user-list mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of gimp-user-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: MessengerPro for LinuxMint v19.0 Mate... > (Alexandre Prokoudine) > 2. Sinc (Lanczos3) Option (Lisa D.) > 3. Re: Sinc (Lanczos3) Option] (Ken Moffat) > 4. Re: Sinc (Lanczos3) Option (Liam R E Quin) > 5. Re: Sinc (Lanczos3) Option (Jernej Simon?i?) > 6. Re: Sinc (Lanczos3) Option (Liam R E Quin) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2018 15:57:21 +0300 > From: Alexandre Prokoudine <[email protected]> > To: GIMP-user-list <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] MessengerPro for LinuxMint v19.0 Mate... > Message-ID: > <[email protected]. > com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > ??, 5 ???. 2018 ?., 7:39 zed: > > > Using LinuxMint v19 Mate > > > > Could not find a version of Gemini for Ubuntu v18.04 Bionic Beaver, so I > > tried to install version for v16.04 Xenial > > (MessengerPro_273.3.4227-xenial_amd64.deb) but that requires > > libdouble-conversion1v5. Linux Mint has > > libdouble-conversion1v2.01-4ubuntu. > > > > Will there be a version issued for Ubuntu 18.04, please? If not, am I > > safe to download and install libdouble-conversionv1v5 without it > > overwriting the present version > > > > Wrong list, mate :) This is GNU Inage Manipulation Program, not much > messaging happening in GIMP. > > Alex > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2018 11:13:01 -0700 > From: "Lisa D." <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: [Gimp-user] Sinc (Lanczos3) Option > Message-ID: > <CAP9WVObpbp2EFAayrR3WUVsG-z-XMYS8QSuSELxPWssnTkkt5A@mail. > gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Hi! I would like to stretch/resize an image without distorting it. I > downloaded GIMP 2.10.4 but was not able to do this with this version of > GIMP. After a few google searches, I found an article stating that you need > GIMP 2.4 to do this because you need to use the ?Sinc (Lanczos3)? option > under Quality>Interpolation in the Scale Image dialog. I checked the > version I have and, lo and behold, 2.10.4 does not seem to have this > option. > > So, I would love to get my hands on GIMP 2.4, but it seems to only be > available now via third party sites that seem wholly unaffiliated with gimp > and, to be honest, look a little hinky to me. Does anyone know of a site > like this that is, in fact, safe and trustworthy? Or another way to get > 2.4? It doesn't seem to be available on gimp.org. Please let me know if > you > have a moment and I'll try to pass it forward when get more gimp skills > under my belt. I have Windows 10, in case it helps to know that. > > Thanks in advance! > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2018 22:44:36 +0100 > From: Ken Moffat <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Sinc (Lanczos3) Option] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Whoops, managed to reply to sender instead of replying to the list. > > ----- Forwarded message from Ken Moffat <[email protected]> ----- > > Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2018 20:20:51 +0100 > From: Ken Moffat <[email protected]> > To: "Lisa D." <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Sinc (Lanczos3) Option > User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > > On Sun, Aug 05, 2018 at 11:13:01AM -0700, Lisa D. via gimp-user-list wrote: > > Hi! I would like to stretch/resize an image without distorting it. I > > downloaded GIMP 2.10.4 but was not able to do this with this version of > > GIMP. After a few google searches, I found an article stating that you > need > > GIMP 2.4 to do this because you need to use the ?Sinc (Lanczos3)? option > > under Quality>Interpolation in the Scale Image dialog. I checked the > > version I have and, lo and behold, 2.10.4 does not seem to have this > > option. > > > > So, I would love to get my hands on GIMP 2.4, but it seems to only be > > available now via third party sites that seem wholly unaffiliated with > gimp > > and, to be honest, look a little hinky to me. Does anyone know of a site > > like this that is, in fact, safe and trustworthy? Or another way to get > > 2.4? It doesn't seem to be available on gimp.org. Please let me know if > you > > have a moment and I'll try to pass it forward when get more gimp skills > > under my belt. I have Windows 10, in case it helps to know that. > > > > Thanks in advance! > > I suspect you have been misled by an old article : 2.4 is now > perhaps best described as 'antique'. I think that this option was > in 2.8, but was dropped in 2.10 : since nobody likes losing quality, > I guess that the developers think the available options are good > enough. A lot of the internal details changed in 2.10 (more use of > gegl). > > But your terminology disturbs me - if you scale up an image, it > should not be distorted (image | scale image) unless the original > image is a jpeg and artifacts appear. But stretching an image > implies distorting it to make things relatively wider (or higher). > > Maybe I've misunderstood, but I suggest you take an example image in > 2.10.4, scale it to your desired size with the various available > options : do this several times, starting from the original each > time, use a different option and save to a separate xcf file (so -A, > -B or whatever : I don't have gimp on the machine I'm replying > from), then export a png from each and compare them. > > If there is indeed a problem, then consider trying the latest 2.8 > version *probably 2.8.22) where that option should be available - > use that, again create a png, compare to the results from 2.10.4. > If that turns out to be equally bad, it's probably either artifacts > in the original, or excessive scaling. But if 2.8 is better then > please raise a bug. > > Many things changed in 2.9 and a few have changed in 2.10. > Sometimes we need to modify our process to get the results we want. > > ?en > -- > Entropy not found, thump keyboard to continue > > > ----- End forwarded message ----- > > -- > Entropy not found, thump keyboard to continue > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2018 01:59:46 -0400 > From: Liam R E Quin <[email protected]> > To: "Lisa D." <[email protected]>, [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Sinc (Lanczos3) Option > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > On Sun, 2018-08-05 at 11:13 -0700, Lisa D. via gimp-user-list wrote: > > Hi! I would like to stretch/resize an image without distorting it. > > This depends on exactly what you mean by distorting it. By default GIMP > will retain the aspect ratio of the original ratio, but maybe that's > not what you meant? > > > I found an article stating that > > you need > > GIMP 2.4 to do this because you need to use the ?Sinc (Lanczos3)? > > option > > GIMP 2.10 has LoHalo and NoHalo instead. For enlarging an image, > though, the third-party Resynthesizer plugin might do a better job. > > > Does anyone know of a > > site > > like this that is, in fact, safe and trustworthy? Or another way to > > get > > 2.4? > > For which Linux distribution and which CPU architecture? > > > I have Windows 10, in case it helps to know that. > > Oh. No, that doesn't help. > > It might be that archive.org has saved a copy, but i doubt it. > > In any case, it's unlikely that gimp 2.4 with lanczos scaling will do > better than gimp 2.10 in practice. I'd need to see what you're doing > inmuch more detail to be sure or to be able to suggest a better > approach. > > Remember that when yuo try to make an image larger you are asking the > computer to invent detail that isn't already present. > > Liam (slave ankh) > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2018 09:08:12 +0200 > From: Jernej Simon?i? <jernej|[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Sinc (Lanczos3) Option > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-7" > > On Mon, 06 Aug 2018 01:59:46 -0400, Liam R E Quin wrote: > > > It might be that archive.org has saved a copy, but i doubt it. > > GIMP 2.4 for Windows is available here: > <https:??download.gimp.org?mirror?pub?gimp?v2.4?windows?> > > -- > < Jernej Simon?i? ><><><><>< http:??eternallybored.org? > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2018 04:20:39 -0400 > From: Liam R E Quin <[email protected]> > To: Jernej Simon?i? <jernej|[email protected]>, > [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Sinc (Lanczos3) Option > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > On Mon, 2018-08-06 at 09:08 +0200, Jernej Simon?i? wrote: > > On Mon, 06 Aug 2018 01:59:46 -0400, Liam R E Quin wrote: > > > > > It might be that archive.org has saved a copy, but i doubt it. > > > > GIMP 2.4 for Windows is available here: > > <https://download.gimp.org/mirror/pub/gimp/v2.4/windows/> > > i'd be interested to know what sort of image does better with that than > with 2.10 and why. > > Liam (slave ankh) > > > -- > Liam Quin - web slave for https://www.fromoldbooks.org/ > > Click here to have the slave beaten. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > gimp-user-list mailing list > [email protected] > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list > > > ------------------------------ > > End of gimp-user-list Digest, Vol 83, Issue 7 > ********************************************* > _______________________________________________ gimp-user-list mailing list List address: [email protected] List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
