On 12/17/06, norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, 2006-12-17 at 14:23 +0100, Olivier Lecarme wrote:
> > Here is my own modest grain of salt in the discussion:
> < snip >
> >
> > Somebody in this list said that teachers have the duty to teach what is
> > an industry standard. My own strong opinion is that one of my duties as
> > a university teacher is to try changing the industry standards, if I
> > think they are inappropriate. If my students need later to learn using
> > Photoshop or Vista, they will be able to learn them quickly and easily,
> > and with an acutely critical mind (hopefully). For the present, I prefer
> > to teach them Gimp and GNU/Linux, and to teach them not to accept any
> > so-called standard without discussion and thought.
> Surely, it is most important to teach students the principals involved
> in a subject so that, at a later stage, they are better informed when it
> comes to choosing in which direction to proceed. It is the
> responsibility of Industry, not universities, to provide the training
> needed for its employees to do the jobs required of them. The new
> graduate should be able to bring fresh ideas to the world of work not
> perpetuate the status quo and, thereby, help to ensure that we all
> benefit from progress and change. I could go on but this is probably not
> the place to do so.
> Norman

As a career development student I'd have to agree that it's more
important to learn general ideas and concepts, vs. the nitty gritty of
one particular application/language, unless you want to learn that
specific level of detail in an application.

My wife teaches Gimp to her Jr. High computer class, about 90 students
a quarter...she wasn't teaching any advanced graphic editor at all
until I showed her Gimp and how it was just as good if not better than
the "industry standard" Photoshop, which is around $600+ for one
license (there probably is a "school edition", but you get my point).
Her students and school would never be able to afford that (nor should
they in my opinion) when there is a competing product that is open
source and available to all.

Also, the "industry standard" is subjective at best and from my
perspective limited simply by choice. Take for excample programming -
what would you say is the "industry standard" language? There are so
many choices it's impossible to say.

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