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   1. Re: Gimp-user Digest, Vol 52, Issue 13 ( Jose Rodriguez )
   2. Curve layer? (Steven Woody)
   3. How to use Gimp and UFRaw to obtain similar result that
      16bits software ( Tom?s Senabre )
   4. CD Labels (Michael Satterwhite)
   5. Re: GIMP's equivalent of adjustment Layer in PS? (Steve Thompson)


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J Rodz  

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   1. Re: delete a file (Sven Neumann)
   2. Re: GIMP's equivalent of adjustment Layer in PS? (Jakub Steiner)
   3. Re: GIMP's equivalent of adjustment Layer in PS? (Shawn Willden)
   4. Re: GIMP's equivalent of adjustment Layer in PS? (Steven Woody)
   5. Re: GIMP's equivalent of adjustment Layer in PS? (lists)


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Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2007 08:45:49 +0100
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Hi,

On Mon, 2007-01-08 at 20:57 -0500, Helen wrote:

> I love the GIMP, I admire the GIMP community immensely, and am
> reluctant to find a fault -- but I do believe
> that would be a worthwhile improvement.

I think I made it clear that such a change would have to happen in GTK+,
since that's where the code for the file-chooser widget lives. Please
stop this pointless discussion here. If you really want this feature,
ask the GTK+ developers for it. But I am pretty sure that there is
already a bug report for it.


Sven




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Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2007 15:16:41 +0100
From: Jakub Steiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP's equivalent of adjustment Layer in PS?
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On Tue, 2007-01-09 at 14:10 +0800, Steven Woody wrote:
> in Photoshop, there is a tool 'adjustment layer', what's the
> equivalent in Gimp? thanks.

Hi.
There isn't an interface to have non-destructive adjustment layers as
found in Photoshop. 

You can work around this in many situations however. If you want to
boost saturation without losing the original image, duplicate the layer,
saturate the topmost and then use the opacity slider to control the
amount. If you want to bring up the shadows, do a similar process,
setting the layer mode to addition, etc. You have to be more specific in
what you are trying to achieve.

cheers

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Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 07:28:57 -0700
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On Monday 08 January 2007 23:10, Steven Woody wrote:
> in Photoshop, there is a tool 'adjustment layer', what's the
> equivalent in Gimp? thanks.

GIMP doesn't have any equivalent.  I believe it's in the plan for future 
releases.  I know the new graphics engine will make adjustment layers very 
simple to implement, so I wouldn't expect to see them implemented before the 
new engine goes in, and I would expect them to be implemented very soon 
after.

For now, you just have to make the adjustments directly on your image layer.   
I usually copy the image layer before applying an adjustment to it, in case I 
decide to remove the adjustment.

        Shawn


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Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 23:38:23 +0800
From: "Steven Woody" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP's equivalent of adjustment Layer in PS?
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On 1/9/07, Shawn Willden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Monday 08 January 2007 23:10, Steven Woody wrote:
> > in Photoshop, there is a tool 'adjustment layer', what's the
> > equivalent in Gimp? thanks.
>
> GIMP doesn't have any equivalent.  I believe it's in the plan for future
> releases.  I know the new graphics engine will make adjustment layers very
> simple to implement, so I wouldn't expect to see them implemented before the
> new engine goes in, and I would expect them to be implemented very soon
> after.
>
> For now, you just have to make the adjustments directly on your image layer.
> I usually copy the image layer before applying an adjustment to it, in case I
> decide to remove the adjustment.
>
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thanks for all the information, but i still expect the adjustment
layer to be available in the future releases. anyway, adjustment layer
is not wholly in function equal to duplicate a layer.

-
woody

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then sun rose thinly from the sea and the old man could see the other
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across the current.


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Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2007 10:57:54 -0500
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Steven Woody wrote:
> On 1/9/07, Shawn Willden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Monday 08 January 2007 23:10, Steven Woody wrote:
>>> in Photoshop, there is a tool 'adjustment layer', what's the
>>> equivalent in Gimp? thanks.
>> GIMP doesn't have any equivalent.  I believe it's in the plan for future
>> releases.  I know the new graphics engine will make adjustment layers very
>> simple to implement, so I wouldn't expect to see them implemented before the
>> new engine goes in, and I would expect them to be implemented very soon
>> after.
>>
>> For now, you just have to make the adjustments directly on your image layer.
>> I usually copy the image layer before applying an adjustment to it, in case I
>> decide to remove the adjustment.
>>
>>         Shawn
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> 
> thanks for all the information, but i still expect the adjustment
> layer to be available in the future releases. anyway, adjustment layer
> is not wholly in function equal to duplicate a layer.

So, if you 'expect' this functionality in a future release, when do you 
plan to implement it? :)

-- 
Until later, Geoffrey

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temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 14:04:59 +0800
From: "Steven Woody" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Gimp-user] Curve layer?
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supposing that i already have two layers, the lower is the image, the
upper is a mask layer for burning/dodging.  now a want to adjust the
overall curve of the whole image.  can i add another layer to do it?
if so, my question is how to.

thanks in advance.

-- 
woody

then sun rose thinly from the sea and the old man could see the other
boats, low on the water and well in toward the shore, spread out
across the current.


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Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 15:21:13 +0100
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Subject: [Gimp-user] How to use Gimp and UFRaw to obtain similar
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Hello,

I have written two articles in spanish language that explain how to use Gimp
and UFRaw to obtain similar result that if we used a software with 16bits
support.

http://tomy.fotolibre.net/fotolibre/cuarto-oscuro-digital-flujo-de-trabajo-con-ufraw/
http://tomy.fotolibre.net/fotolibre/cuarto-oscuro-digital-ii-tratamiento-por-zonas-a-16-bits-con-gimp-y-ufraw/

I think that these articles can help to professionals and advanced users of
Gimp

Happy new year 2007 for everybody

Tomy

-- 
Tom?s Senabre Gonz?lez
Petrer (Alicante)

http://www.tomy.fotolibre.net

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I was going to burn some Gimp CD's to distribute at our IBM (Brotherhood
of Magicians - not Business Machines) Ring. Does anyone know of any CD
labels that someone has made? Would look better than me just writing
"Gimp" on the front with a sharpie.


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Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 08:49:28 -0700
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Geoffrey -

On 1/9/07, lists <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Steven Woody wrote:
> > thanks for all the information, but i still expect the adjustment
> > layer to be available in the future releases. anyway, adjustment layer
> > is not wholly in function equal to duplicate a layer.
>
> So, if you 'expect' this functionality in a future release, when do you
> plan to implement it? :)
>

Ah, but it is nice to have the talents of a skilled comedian on this list. :-)

Adjustment layers have to be in a future implementation of Gimp if we
expect the tool to remain in any way competitive.  Both Krita and
Pixel, which have not been around for as long as the Gimp, support
this feature already!

I've read here that people are trying to hobble along with the
duplicate/modify image technique, which I am forced of course to use
as well.  There are some severe problems with this:
1) When I pull the 10 mp images from my camera and try to make a
composition, having several faux adjustment layers means consuming
ginormous amounts of memory.
2) After altering a specific layer, I cannot go back and see/alter
what I've done.  My only recourse is to either delete the layer and
add another or to hope that I can undo back to the point that I need.
3) Hand in hand with #1, my Gimp files become painfully large.  I do
not own a computer for the sole purpose of supporting the Gimp!

Is there no way that the Gimp can leverage some of the work already
done by the Krita folks?  I'm afraid that if Krita/digiKam was to
become integrated in the future, much of the need for the Gimp would
simply go away.

Best regards,


Steve

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