On Thursday 27 September 2007 08:00:45 George Farris wrote:
> --- gimp_user <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > ...[GIMP] does not have an interface that makes for an easy user
> > transition from the industry PS standard it is not a tool that is
> > ready for adoption by high quality image makers.
> FUD your conclusion is only valid for yourself and not others so your
> statement is false.  You can't speak for me and I don't agree with you
> so...  If you can provide hard data that backs this up with numbers well
> that might be a different story but it would have to be global figures.
> Thanks
I would rather you did not chop extracts from the whole of my text and thereby 
portray a misleading impression of a theme referencing multiple strands. The 
difficulty that idividuals face in  switiching from one software interface to 
another naturally varies from individual to individual. But that is no way 
intended to be interpreted as the core of my contribution.

My original posting  was intended to draw attention to multiple layers of 
reality that contribute to professional decision  about software choices that 
go well beyond costs of acquirement. Recruitment is based upon assessment of 
levels of experience and known skills. Someone who says "Well I know Gimp but 
I am  sure I could adapt to photoshop" is going to face an uphill struggle 
convincing an agency that he has all the right skills. His statement would be 
taken as evidence of not understanding the role of an individual contributor 
in a complex supply chain. 

While the absence of a recognised skill transition route (i.e. no skin similar 
to PS) is a serious obstacle affecting the ability  of multiple individuals 
to collaborate in a supply chain comprising multiple organisations it is far 
from being the only reason while Gimp is not currently in a position to 
seriously challenge PS. 

By selective quoting you leave out the substance of an argument which was 
never intended to apply to a lone worker. So your objection that it does not 
apply to you, as an individual, is totally irrelevant. It also suggest to me 
that you have not carefully read and understood the theme.

What I would like to see is gimp competing, in the industry supply chain, on 
at least equal terms with PS and that cannot happen overnight. It would be 
foolish to suggest that that could be achieved by simply having a GUI that 
makes for an easy transition. PS has to be considered not just as a tool for 
for high quality image manipulation but also as an attempt to provide an 
integrated solution to the requirements of a complete supply chain.

The real world is far more complex than the needs and abilities of individuals 
and my contribution was only intend to open a crack in the door of examining 
the impliaction of those wider complexities. Gimp has the potential to be 
developed to at least equal photoshop but because it can interface with the 
rich world of open source solutions it could do even better. Whether it will 
or will not do so is a choice available to the community.

I am not saying Gimp "should" choose to set out to do so. I am saying that 
while, in its present state it will continue to satisfy the needs of many 
individuals, such as yourself.   It is also my opinion that it has the 
potential to fulfill the wider expectations of a collaborative industry of 
high quality image makers. To do that, in my opinion, it will need to make 
many changes if it is to satisfy the needs of a supply chain accustomed to 
share resources and skills (including common toolsets). It means providing 
tools for non-destructive editing to enable more than one individual and 
organisation to contribute to the creation, manipulation, selection, 
cataloguing, distribution and promotion of  images.  

These requirement present a serious challenge and no easy one for an open 
source project to fulfill.

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