Hi, deniz.a.m.do...@gmail.com (2009-11-25 at 1613.28 +0100): > It seems like there is no way to toggle this behavior by e.g. holding > key. You'd think that holding the shift key would toggle the behavior, > which the description in the toolbox implies. However, I can't get > this to work!
I gave it a look again (*) and when tool options say "move" you will move the layer that is active in layers dialog when you drag, no matter where you click. If it says "pick" you will activate topmost opaque layer and then move it when you drag. Shift key changes the button temporally. Try it, press and release it and see how the tool options update... at least here it does... if not, you found a bug. The preferences option just decides about keeping or not the activation. You can see the temp activation in layers dialog while the mouse button is hold. Leave preferences open to one side of the monitor and see how things behave with an image with 2 transparent layers with a small doodle in each, try pref on/off, shift pressed, etc. *: Three notes about why I forget all the details of this. First is that I have the "make active" pref enabled to match old Gimps and always forget about it. It can be weird for new people, but so is that move's default includes pick (it is named move, not select/pick and move... so before and now are not free of sins). Second is that I never change these tool options from the default settings, so I do not have to look at them ever; my fingers always know. Nevermind in some cases the keys are not toggles, in move tool shift is, but try selecting layer, selection and path modes and see what control or alt do in each case... the only that seems sane to me is to leave it in layers, so all three keys can do things and my fingers can continue in automatic mode. And third is that I stopped believing in texts, instead I see what things do, so my hands learn that and my eyes completly ignore the texts. Small redesign: the tool options should be something like "Move top opaque layer under cursor" for pick and "Move active layer" for move. There must be better wording that current. As Joao mentioned, the "keep active or not" pref could be a tool option, dependant on "Move top opaque layer under cursor" and with a text like "Make active". Things could be moved but with the intent of leaving the settings in sane state (some of us would had to relearn shift key, but I think it could be settled forever). Example: () Move active layer () Pick top opaque then move --, pick enables/gives access to [] Keep picked as active <-` keep toggle (otherwise greyed) GSR _______________________________________________ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
