Running two versions of gimp on one computer is easy. Thanks for the help. I ran gimp 1.0.4 on the old computer for a long time and it ran beautifully. When I upgraded to 1.1.24, I lost control of the hue and saturation through Image>Colors>Hue-Saturation. I got a different computer, I installed 1.1.25 on it and the hue saturation sliders have no effect on the layer color with this guy either. I wrote a letter to this list and searched the archives for the thread of mail I remembered this trouble being discussed. I wasn't able to locate it in the archives (I did find gtkxmhtml, though. IMO this shouldn't be so difficult to find, in case someone who is not so good with computers wishes to install the gimp. It would be this kind of user who would be most interested in "Help"), so I opted to just start over and to be more careful this time. I ran "make uninstall" on Gimp 1.1.25. I installed 1.0.4 and then changed the binaries in /usr/local/bin/ from gimp and gimptool to gimpl (for gimp `lite') and gimptool to gimpltool. Then I installed Gimp 1.1.25. Both of these installations were successful (I am one who has to disable nls in order to do this). Meanwhile, on the old computer, where I used to run gimp 1.0.4 with working hue saturation control: I removed, by hand, gimp 1.1.24. I reinstalled gimp 1.0.4. Guess what? The hue and saturation is not working. The last time I had it working, was with the gimp 1.0.4 that came with my linux distribution TurboLinux Workstation 3.6. It is one of those distributions that came without a gimptool. I think that my problem is in the libraries? The updated gtk is what is different between the old 1.0.4 and the new one. Is there help?