"but then AF is saying that marital happiness is contingent on perpetual separation. AF wasn't married herself; perhaps she cast a cold eye on the rest of us."
Well, indeed. I put about as much faith in a lifelong spinster's ideas about marriage as I do in EBD's about childrearing. You really do have to have been there. And in my, perhaps jaundiced but certainly experienced view (married 26 years), marriage is very rarely one long experience of bliss. Failure to understand this rather basic, to me, fact would seem to explain the very high divorce rate. Of course there is the fact that most of AFs couples don;t get divorced, even if they don;t seem to live in a perpetual state of bliss. Which seems reasonable. There is marital happiness and marital happiness, and marital happiness after 20/30/whatever years is not the same as marital happiness after 6 months. And I don;t feel sorry for Edwin at all. He is getting what he wants - regular sex, his kids looked after, intelligent conversation. Seems a reasonable bargain to me. Fen Fen ===== Fen Crosbie ___________________________________________________________ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com -- ________________________________________ Girlsown mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] For self-administration and access to archives see http://home.it.net.au/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/girlsown For FAQs see http://www.club-web.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/girlsown/faq-0.htm