Which is the command(s) you are using that needs the "ignore = all", or is that figurative?

From my viewpoint I would have thought that you would want to know which
version of the submodule was being used at any step so that you can go back to any point in history and be sure that the submodule was the same version, rather than a moving target. Tha assumes that sub-module is part of the project rather than ancilliary details (e.g. one part is a renderer, and the other is the latest scenery to be rendered, as opposed to a render and a core function libray)


regards

Philip
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Philip,

Thanks a lot for detailed info. For now I'll keep using "ignore = all" :>

Regards,
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Wiadomość napisana przez Philip Oakley <philipoak...@iee.org> w dniu 18 cze 2013, o godz. 00:23:

Adam,
http://bec-systems.com/site/1020/git-submodules-can-now-track-branches may be of help.

Noting this toward the end:
"This functionality is purely a convenience feature in the submodule update command. In the actual repository, Git still stores submodules pointed to a particular commit."
Have a read.

Philip

----- Original Message ----- From: "Philip Oakley" <philipoak...@iee.org>
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Adam Strzelecki" <o...@java.pl>
To: "Philip Oakley" <philipoak...@iee.org>
Cc: <git-users@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 6:49 PM
Subject: Re: [git-users] Submodule tracking remote master shows modified on super project git status after submodule update --remote


The super project 'git status' will tell you if any of it's parts have been changed, and that includes, the status of the sub-directories that are sub-modules - and you just said that it had been updated.

Yes they were updated, but their HEAD still is equal to what .gitmodule "branch" is set to. I would expect it didn't show any modifications then, unless submodule header != .gitmodule "branch".

Importantly, sub-modules are "never" on a branch, they are (normally) checked out at a specific commit (remember the bit about fixed libraries), so that may be part of your problems - It takes a bit to get though all the manual pages and even then, understanding doesn't always convert to a useful working practice.... [aside: I still battle the msysgit/git sub-module structure]

So it makes "branch" setting introduced in Git 1.8.2 just a hint for git submodule update --remote, and nothing more (unfortunately), right?

Then well this isn't really useful if I need to manually update submodule tracked SHA1 anyway whenever branch gets updated :(

Cheers,
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Hi Adam,

Looking through the documentation history in the History tab https://github.com/git/git/commits/master/Documentation/git-submodule.txt I don't see anything that changes the basic underlying behavior about having a specific commit checked out, but there are updates with the --branch option for fetching updates.

The super project git tree needs to know the exact version of every part of the tree, including the sub-modules, to do a commit, so if your update of the submodule means you have a newer version, then yes, status will show that change (of checked out commit sha1 id). The ability to get updates easier for sub-modules doesn't mean that verification/validation recording has gone away.

If you truly want those new sub-modules updates in the tree then yes, it is an uncommitted change.

But, it is easy to accidentally misunderstand and talk past each other on sub-modules... perhaps a short command history. or an example sequence that can recreate your concern would help clear any misunderstanding.

Philip




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