On Sun, Aug 19, 2018 at 5:50 PM brian m. carlson
<sand...@crustytoothpaste.net> wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 19, 2018 at 03:40:22PM -0400, Eric Sunshine wrote:
> > On Sun, Aug 19, 2018 at 1:54 PM brian m. carlson
> > <sand...@crustytoothpaste.net> wrote:
> > > + test "$(test_oid hexsz)" -eq $(wc -c <actual) &&
> > > + test $(( $(test_oid rawsz) * 2)) -eq "$(test_oid hexsz)"
> > > +'
> >
> > If $(test_oid rawsz) fails to find "rawsz" and returns nothing, this
> > expression will be "*2", which will error out in a
> > less-than-meaningful way. Perhaps it would make more sense to dump the
> > results of the two test_oid() to file and use test_cmp()?
>
> I think what I'd like to do instead is store in a variable and make
> test_oid return unsuccessfully if the value doesn't exist. I think
> that's better for writing tests overall and will accomplish the same
> goal.
My knee-jerk reaction is that could get clunky in practice, but
perhaps I'm not seeing the full picture.
An alternative would be to return a distinguished error value.
> > > + test_oid_cache <"$TEST_DIRECTORY/oid-info/$1"
> >
> > What is the benefit of placing test-specific OID info in some
> > dedicated directory? I suppose the idea of lumping all these OID files
> > together in a single oid-info/ directory is that it makes it easier to
> > see at a glance what needs to be changed next time a new hash
> > algorithm is selected. However, that potential long-term benefit comes
> > at the cost of divorcing test-specific information from the tests
> > themselves. I imagine (for myself, at least) that it would be easier
> > to grok a test if its OID's were specified and cached directly in the
> > test script itself (via test_oid_cache <<here-doc). I could even
> > imagine a test script invoking test_oid_cache<<here-doc before each
> > test which has unique OID's in order to localize OID information to
> > the test which needs it, or perhaps even within a test.
>
> Putting them in a separate directory makes it possible to do something
> like this:
>
> (cd t && ./t0002-* --verbose)
>
> and then use shell editing to change the command line. If we put them
> in the same directory as the tests, we make developers' lives a bit
> harder.
Perhaps I'm missing something obvious, but I'm not following what
you're trying to convey.
Okay, thinking upon this further, I guess you mean people who type
your example directly rather than using "./t0002-*.sh" or something.
> You mentioned the desire to experiment with additional hash algorithms
> as a hope for this series. I don't know if that's still something
> desirable to have, now that we've decided on SHA-256, but I felt it
> would make it easier to find all the places that need updating.
I'm still open to the idea of supporting experimentation with other
hash algorithms and I see how lumping all the OID tables into a single
directory can make it easy to locate everything that will require
adjustment for a new algorithm. But, this information can also be
gleaned via a simple grep for "test_oid_cache", so I'm not sure the
lumped-directory approach buys much.
Also, my gut feeling is that such experimentation will be very rare,
whereas the addition of new tests which have some sort of
OID-dependency will likely be a more frequent occurrence. And, the
locality of an OID-table plopped down right next to the test which
requires it seems a win (in my mind).
> > So, I'm having trouble understanding the benefit of the current
> > approach over merely loading OID's via here-docs in the test scripts
> > themselves. Perhaps the commit message could say something about why
> > the current approach was taken.
>
> I can do that. The idea is that we have lots of common uses of certain
> values that will need to be loaded, and it's better to load some of
> those values from a file. I felt it would be ugly to have to write out
> the full "$TEST_DIRECTORY..." piece every time.
I do favor the simplicity of the caller deciding whether to use
"test_oid_cache <file" or "test_oid_cache <<here-doc"; it provides
extra flexibility over a function which loads the OID tables from a
fixed path.
However, I'm sympathetic to the ugliness each caller having to specify
"$TEST_DIRECTORY/...". In my review of 2/11, I suggested the idea of a
test_oid_init() function which could load those common OID tables for
scripts which need them, thus hiding that ugliness. Another idea which
has some appeal is to define an $OIDDB variable (or some such name)
with value "$TEST_DIRECTORY/oid-info", which lets callers use:
test_oid_cache <"$OIDDB/bloop"
which isn't so bad.
> > Why, specifically, return $? here, as opposed to simply returning?
>
> A simple return is probably better. I think I wasn't clear on whether
> POSIX required a bare "return" to return $? and may not have been online
> at that time to look. I remember being very clear that I didn't want to
> return 0 unconditionally, though.
I asked because, as far as I can see, this _is_ returning 0
unconditionally since $? will always be 0 by the time it gets to the
'return' (since it's not making any effort to break from the 'while'
loop with a meaningful value upon failure.
Fixing this function to return a meaningful value (success or failure)
might be sensible since that would allow it to be used directly in a
test rather than only outside.
