On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 12:14 AM, Jeff King <p...@peff.net> wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 11:45:54AM -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote:
>
>> David Turner <dtur...@twopensource.com> writes:
>>
>> > Add parameters for a list of refspecs to transport_get_remote_refs and
>> > get_refs_list.  These parameters are presently unused -- soon, we will
>> > use them to implement fetches which only learn about a subset of refs.
>> >
>> > Signed-off-by: David Turner <dtur...@twopensource.com>
>> > ---
>>
>> What the code tries to do I am more than halfway happy.  It is
>> unfortunate that we cannot do this natively without upgrading the
>> protocol in a fundamental way, but this is a nice way to work it
>> around only for Git-over-HTTP transport without having to break the
>> protocol.
>
> I dunno, I am a bit negative on bringing new features to Git-over-HTTP
> (which is already less efficient than the other protocols!) without any
> plan for supporting them in the other protocols.
>
> I thought Stefan's v2 protocol work looked quite good, but it seems to
> have stalled. The hardest part of that topic is figuring out the upgrade
> path. But for git-over-http, we can solve that in the same way that
> David is passing in the extra refspecs.

Yeah it stalled, though I hope to revive it eventually.

I was positive about these changes for that same reason: If http and native
protocol move apart even more, it will be easier to make the native only
v2 protocol without needing to fiddle with http, i.e. this series would reduce
scope of the v2 series drastically?

>
> So I'd rather see something like:
>
>   1. Support for v2 "capabilities only" initial negotiation, followed
>      by ref advertisement.

And the client needs to talk in between capabilities and ref advertisement.
Even if it is just a flush for now. That can be extended later to the actual
desired capabilities, but the server needs to at least wait for a client packet
in here.

Note that the server side for v2 capabilites only first is done, the client side
is missing as I found that to be the hard part.


>
>   2. Support for refspec-limiting capability.
>
>   3. HTTP-only option from client to trigger v2 on the server.
>
> That's still HTTP-specific, but it has a clear path for converging with
> the ssh and git protocols eventually, rather than having to support
> magic out-of-band capabilities forever.
>
> It does require an extra round of HTTP request/response, though.
>
> -Peff
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