gemmellr commented on code in PR #4246:
URL: https://github.com/apache/activemq-artemis/pull/4246#discussion_r991291616


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artemis-cli/src/main/java/org/apache/activemq/artemis/cli/commands/tools/InitLogging.java:
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+package org.apache.activemq.artemis.cli.commands.tools;
+
+import java.io.File;
+import java.io.PrintWriter;
+import java.io.StringWriter;
+import java.lang.invoke.MethodHandles;
+import java.util.Collections;
+
+import io.airlift.airline.Command;
+import io.airlift.airline.Option;
+import org.apache.activemq.artemis.cli.commands.ActionAbstract;
+import org.apache.activemq.artemis.cli.commands.ActionContext;
+import org.apache.activemq.artemis.cli.commands.Create;
+import org.slf4j.Logger;
+import org.slf4j.LoggerFactory;
+
+@Command(name = "init-logging", description = "Initialize a default log4j 
configuration")
+public class InitLogging extends ActionAbstract {
+
+   private static final Logger logger = 
LoggerFactory.getLogger(MethodHandles.lookup().lookupClass());
+
+   public static final String OLD_LOG_NAME = "logging.properties";
+
+   @Option(name = "--force", description = "Overwrite configuration at 
destination directory")
+   private boolean force;
+
+   @Override
+   public Object execute(ActionContext context) throws Exception {
+      super.execute(context);
+
+      initLogging(force, new File(getBrokerInstance()));
+
+      return null;
+   }
+
+
+   public static void initLogging(boolean force, File brokerInstance) throws 
Exception {
+      File etc = new File(brokerInstance, "etc");
+      File newLogging = new File(etc, Create.ETC_LOG4J2_PROPERTIES);
+
+      if (!force && newLogging.exists()) {
+         System.err.println("A configuration file " + 
newLogging.getAbsolutePath() + " already exists! Use the option -f if you want 
to re-initialize it");
+         return;
+      }
+
+      Create.write("etc/" + Create.ETC_LOG4J2_PROPERTIES, newLogging, 
Collections.emptyMap(), false, force, "utf-8");
+   }
+
+   public static void verifyOlderLogging(File fileInstance) throws Exception {
+      File etc = new File(fileInstance, "etc");
+      File newLogging = new File(etc, Create.ETC_LOG4J2_PROPERTIES);
+      File oldLogging = new File(etc, OLD_LOG_NAME);
+
+      if (oldLogging.exists() && !newLogging.exists()) {
+         logger.warn("Logging not initialized!");

Review Comment:
   Yes, and I'm saying I really dont think we should try to fix it ourselves, 
as I did time you tried, because we cant really fix it properly ourselves, and 
we cant be sure of the effect doing it will have. Even with what you did it 
still has no effect until the next startup even if they dont have alternative 
valid config and it isnt interfering with other config.
   
   The JBoss Logging stuff comes in via the scripts hardcoding it, scripts that 
also wont have been updated if you dont follow the update instructions. Thats 
then picked up when the Java Util Logging stuff in the Artemis class kicks in 
and makes it go look for the JBoss LogManager as instructed by the script.



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