Maybe I am missing something but when folks are doing citations on En Wikipedia in both Wiki Markup -- as well as Visual Editor -- putting unique identifiers like OCLC, ISBN, DOI, etc into the Cite RefToolbar form and clicking on lookup icon does a great job often with auto filling info. The web Cite for many news sources also works we'll with URLs for places like The New York Times and The Washington Post, etc.
When librarians see these tools in practice it's very magical so if the end users have even minimal comfort with the interfaces I recommend these options for the fullest citations possible on En Wikipedia. With ref name= populated so ref can be re-used of course.... There is of course a massive loss of full bibliographic citation data to convey this info to Wikidata but there is no working solution to this yet. I am not a fan of putting cites onto Wikidata until this is at least minimally improved although I understand the benefits and interoperability with multiple language Wikipedias, etc. I am probably just fetishizing my full robust citations but YMMV. Much of this is connected to WikiCite -- and possibly Librarybase, so if you are interested more I strongly recommend investigating both projects, especially WikiCite. Early stages yet, but exciting and moving in the right direction. - Erika > On Nov 1, 2016, at 5:06 PM, Raymond Leonard <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Folks, > > I may be preaching to the choir, but I think that there are two important > pieces for encouraging librarians in entering bibliographic data into & > retrieving it from Wikidata . > > The first would be some sort of web form that has multiple inputs with > pre-determined properties such as Work, Edition, & Cataloging properties > listed at :wikidata:Template:Book properties & :d:Wikidata:WikiProject Books > . (especially the OCLC #!!!) While this may be contrary to the way things > normally go into Wikidata, it could provide a format that I believe many > librarians would find more user friendly. I write this as someone who once > entered journal bibliographic data into a minicomputer-based online > university catalog about 2½ decades ago. Some means for automatically loading > MARC &/or OCLC data into Wikidata might also be a viable method, too. > > The second would be to implement a citation module for placing data into > articles. The French Wikipedia (& I have also heard the Arabic Wikipedia) has > already done this. It would be truly beneficial to get this translated to the > English Wikipedia, although it would be better yet if we could come up a > means of putting the module on a repository that could be used across > projects. I am neither fluent in Lua or French, so producing an English > version is a challenge for me, otherwise I would do it. > > Here's an example of how the French Wikipedia & Wikidata work together to > produce a citation: > > Du chocolate : discours curieux divisé en quatre parties item in Wikdata: > https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q23906197?uselang=en > > The Modèle:Bibliographie (bibliographic template): > https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mod%C3%A8le:Bibliographie > > How the Wikimarkup looks for its use in Chocolat article ( > {{bibliographie|Q23906197}} should be at the top): > https://fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chocolat&action=edit§ion=50 > > What the end result looks like (Du chocolate : discours curieux divisé en > quatre parties should be at the top): > https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chocolat#Bibliographie > > Yours, > > Peaceray > -- > > [email protected] (forwards to) > > [email protected] > >> On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 11:51 AM, Bob Kosovsky <[email protected]> wrote: >> Great suggestion, Daniel. I think there can should be a greater effort to >> promoting Wikidata among librarians with technical expertise because it is >> closer to what these librarians do (especially among catalogers and other >> tech types). In sessions introducing editing Wikipedia that included >> librarians, I've seen the librarians express greater interest in Wikidata >> than the encyclopedia. >> >> Bob >> >> >> Bob Kosovsky, Ph.D. -- Curator, Rare Books and Manuscripts, >> Music Division, The New York Public Library for the Performing Arts >> blog: http://www.nypl.org/blog/author/44 Twitter: @kos2 >> Listowner: OPERA-L ; SMT-ANNOUNCE ; SoundForge-users >> - My opinions do not necessarily represent those of my institutions - >> >> Inspiring Lifelong Learning | Advancing Knowledge | Strengthening Our >> Communities >> >>> On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 2:17 PM, Daniel Mietchen >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Thanks, Alex and Jake, for keeping the ball rolling on this. >>> >>> Have you considered including a Wikidata component? In the long run, I >>> expect librarians to spend more of their Wikimedia time on Wikidata, >>> especially around >>> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Source_MetaData . >>> >>> Cheers, >>> d. >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 8:38 PM, Alex Stinson <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> > Hello Wikimedians! >>> > >>> > >>> > We are excited to finally start coordinating among #1lib1ref organizers >>> > this >>> > month. >>> > >>> > >>> > If you haven’t yet, we invite you to read the lessons that we learned from >>> > last year’s great campaign: >>> > >>> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/The_Wikipedia_Library/1Lib1Ref/Lessons >>> > >>> > >>> > As with last year, we hope to launch #1lib1ref on Wikipedia’s 16th >>> > birthday >>> > in January, asking librarians to “Give a birthday present to Wikipedia, by >>> > adding a reference”. >>> > >>> > >>> > What’s new? >>> > >>> > >>> > Last year we got a lot of feedback from librarians that they would have >>> > planned more activities if “they just had a bit more warning and time” so >>> > we >>> > are extending the campaign from eight days to 19 days, from January 15 >>> > through February 3. >>> > >>> > >>> > We hope this does two things: a) it allows for several waves of >>> > communications and people adopting the campaign for local events and b) >>> > fits >>> > better with the start of the Spring Term at many universities in the >>> > Northern Hemisphere, where librarians are in demand for various >>> > activities. >>> > >>> > >>> > We also noticed last year a lot of social media about informal gatherings: >>> > librarians wanted to learn about Wikipedia socially at physical events. We >>> > think this is a great opportunity, so the Wikipedia Library team is >>> > developing a coffee hour kit that provides enough material to help >>> > librarians coordinate a small gathering, where they can talk about >>> > Wikipedia >>> > with their peers and add their one reference. >>> > >>> > >>> > The kit is going to include: a) recommendations for planning, b) a series >>> > of >>> > discussion questions, c) easy suggested activities, and d) a flyer >>> > template >>> > for promoting the event locally. If you would like to help build the kit, >>> > or a new 1lib1ref logo, let us know. >>> > >>> > >>> > How you can help >>> > >>> > >>> > We hope the campaign offers a platform for engaging librarians in your >>> > region and context to learn more about Wikimedia projects. We know >>> > librarians use Wikipedia for a variety of purposes, but the campaign’s >>> > story--specifically how our references work--becomes a shared foundation >>> > for >>> > understanding and entering our community. If you would like to coordinate >>> > #1lib1ref in your area, here are the main steps: >>> > >>> > >>> > Join the Wikipedia + Libraries Facebook group: >>> > https://www.facebook.com/groups/wikilibrary >>> > >>> > Fill out this survey: >>> > https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSflWCp9QkNbIZWXCWU02bp_FGCAua4Z6UaBj7P6Gcn1csT-6g/viewform >>> > >>> > Review Citation Hunt -- a volunteer-developed tool that allows for >>> > randomly >>> > being offered a citation. Check if your language is supported in the top >>> > right. >>> > >>> > URL: https://tools.wmflabs.org/citationhunt/ >>> > >>> > Report Bugs or request features or language support: >>> > https://github.com/eggpi/citationhunt/issues >>> > >>> > Review Hashtag Tracking -- a way to track edits made through the edit >>> > summary field. >>> > >>> > URL: https://tools.wmflabs.org/hashtags >>> > >>> > Report bugs or request features or language support: >>> > https://github.com/hatnote/hashtags/issues/new >>> > >>> > Translate the campaign page to your local language. We want to have it >>> > ready >>> > for translation no later than November 10th and will notify you with an >>> > email that it’s ready. >>> > >>> > Begin reaching out to partners that you think will want to participate >>> > during the campaign through a) communications or b) activities. >>> > >>> > >>> > We look forward to collaborating with you! 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