A couple of points I forgot to mention.

 

It is a good idea to suggest that attendees have experience in word processing 
or spreadsheets (e.g. Microsoft Word, Excel). I have had the experience with 
some older people who perceive themselves to capable with IT because they can 
send and receive email and lookup things in Google. And, for what they normally 
want to do, their skills are just fine. But Wikipedia demands higher skills 
which most of us take for granted as “normal”. Some examples of assumed 
knowledge:

 

*        Using when you edit Wikipedia, you often have your edit session in one 
tab of your browser and one or more other tabs open with the material you are 
about cite (or maybe in a separate browser window if you have the screen real 
estate available) . Some people do not understand about multiple tabs or 
multiple instances of the browser, nor how you switch between them.

 

*        Copy and paste. You and I probably just CTRL-C/V without a thought. 
Some people not only do not know the keyboard accelerators nor the right-click 
menu way of doing copy/paste, they just don’t understand what you even mean by 
copy and paste. They may not understand about “selecting text” which is the 
first step for copying. Also worth noting, some people do understand what copy 
and paste is, but only within the context of one application or one document. 
They do not realise they can copy and paste between documents or between 
different applications (but they usually think you are amazing when you show 
them that they can do it!). As you can imagine, doing a citation is a very 
difficult if you can’t copy and paste the title and the URL etc.

Tip: if you have to teach copy and paste to someone, teach them to select text 
right to left (end to start) not left to right (start to end), for some reason 
I don’t understand many people find this is easier and more accurate (not sure 
if it is something to do with the hand or the brain). I was told this and I 
experimented and I think it is true (works better for me anyway). It also has 
the practical benefit that if you overshoot you will probably pick up an extra 
space at the front rather than a punctuation mark at the end and generally the 
extra space is less harmful in the copy and paste than the extra punctuation.

 

*        URLs. Again, when we cite from a web page, we need a URL. Some people 
don’t know what you mean by a URL. The event is not the time to explain it 
stands for Uniform Resource Locator nor what on earth that means anyway. Try 
using the “web address” or “web page address” (sometimes the issue is just 
vocabulary), sometimes the problem is more conceptual. A lot of people get to 
web pages from bookmarks, search engine results or by navigating along a known 
sequence of links; they do not realise there is a direct way of addressing 
them. It seems some people have either never noticed the URL in the address bar 
of their browser or decided it is of no relevance to them. Some browsers also 
hide parts of the URL, e.g. http:// which doesn’t help people’s understanding 
of them and of course some things displayed in your browser are not persistent 
web pages and the contents of the address bar is not a true URL. The event is 
not the time to attempt to explain any of this. Try to teach them the absolute 
minimum they need to do their current task (usually constructing a citation) 
and plan to double-check their URLs later in case they didn’t get it right. If 
people can’t distinguish between the URL and the name of the web page, use the 
analogy of a library catalogue which tells you the name of the book and its 
location on the shelf (a URL is the “shelf location” within the Internet). 

 

If you have plenty of volunteers, it may be worthwhile allocating one to 
ongoing handholding with a person who don’t understand stuff that we see as 
“basic IT skills”. They will probably go very slowly and not achieve a lot in 
the event but at least if someone helps them, they will get something small 
done and let them go home feeling good about the experience. Be patient and try 
not to make them feel stupid or inadequate. There are probably plenty of things 
they know how to do that we do not. They are at your event in good faith.

 

And just before anyone accuses me of ageism, I should point out that I am a 
retired person (so obviously well aware of ageism) and the people with these 
very low IT skills in my sessions have always been older people. This is not to 
say every young person is great at Wikipedia writing, but they generally do 
possess basic IT skills if they turn up at a Wikipedia event.

 

While experience with using word processors and spreadsheets does not 
necessarily imply that people will have the skills I mention above, it does 
suggest they are using a computer for content production which *tends* to 
demand more skills than replying to an email and web browsing.

 

Don’t use the sandbox or subpages more generally. The “/” thing is very Unix. 
If people have prior exposure to DOS, then they will know what “\” means but 
probably not what “/” means. Subpages needs a certain conceptual understanding 
of a hierarchical file system. Your event is not the time to teach this. You 
don’t need a “sandbox” for practice, just let them practice on their user page 
by adding some material about themselves (home town they live in, their 
hobbies, and their paid editing disclosure!). Then get them to bold/italicise 
the text, add some headings, put their hobbies in a bullet list, and then link 
their hobbies to the relevant Wikipedia articles. The only thing you can’t so 
easily teach in the User Page is citations (there’s no reason to cite anything 
about the information they have added) but I do a “let’s pretend” citation 
there anyway because I don’t want them doing it for the first time in a 
mainspace article.

 

Tip: if you are using the Visual Editor for the event (and of course you should 
be), it is worth knowing that the Visual Editor is clever when it comes to 
copying and pasting. So if people want to develop bits of their article content 
on their User Page and then copy over to the real article, that works just fine 
with the Visual Editor (the source article must be open in the VE when the copy 
is done, that’s the main way to get it wrong) as it always carries the 
citations across correctly (which isn’t the case in the source editor when 
there is reuse of existing citations).

 

Finally, it is very important to understand that people who attend events are 
committing to the duration of the event and not necessarily beyond it. So do 
not expect that people will return to their work after leaving the event, other 
than to show it to other people. Even if people enjoyed the event, it does not 
mean they will continue as Wikipedians. Do not set your expectations to be 
otherwise. I have bumped into people from time to time after events and from 
this I am aware that people do get value from the event in terms of 
understanding how Wikipedia is written, how citations are expected, that it 
isn’t the Wild West of information where anything goes, etc. Even if they don’t 
continue to contribute, I like to think that they will use Wikipedia more 
realistically because they better understand how it is created and that they 
will share that “literacy” with their friends and hopefully donate as well (I 
always stress that Wikipedia is the world’s most accessed not-for-profit 
website that depends entirely on many small donations from individuals). 

 

Kerry

 

 

From: Cultural-Partners [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Kerry Raymond
Sent: Wednesday, 12 July 2017 5:05 PM
To: 'Wikimedia Chapters cultural partners coordination - closed list' 
<[email protected]>; 'Wikimedia & GLAM collaboration [Public]' 
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Subject: Re: [cultural-partners] What advice do you connect new editing event 
organizers with?

 

I generally use the phone to talk to the organisers. You really need to know 
what they are thinking about doing (or, worse still, have already advertised 
doing) in order to advise them correctly. The things I strongly recommend are 
all about risk management. Events are just full of “Wikipedia risk” (there’s 
normal event risk, but I’ll assume everyone knows that).

 

If there are likely to be a lot of new people (almost always the case), you 
will have a number of problems. First, try to get them to create accounts in 
advance because of the restriction on new accounts from the same IP address in 
one day. However, a lot of people won’t have created the user account 
beforehand (didn’t read that email, too busy, didn’t know how) and half of the 
others who did will have forgotten their username and/or password and need to 
do it again. So, in advance, get one of your more experienced users to get 
themselves the account creator privilege to bypass this problem (it has saved 
the situation for me a number of times). Other ways around it are to get people 
to sign up on their phones (not using the wifi in the room but through their 
ISP).

 

If planning to create new articles (almost always the case), there can be 
problems with notability and conflict-of-interest topics. Do not say to a room 
of newbies “write  about whatever you like” as it ends badly. It is generally 
better if the organisers draw up a list of topics that are likely to be notable 
in the chosen topic space (ideally with two citations to demonstrate 
notability) and ask the participants to pick one of those topics rather than 
say “write about whatever you want”. Also newbies are very poor at finding 
existing articles so they may write a 2nd article on the same topic (again, 
doesn’t end well).  In my experience, most newcomers go blank at the thought of 
picking their own topic, which is then leads to picking some topic with which 
they have CoI or lacks notability. I find newbies actually prefer to be given a 
topic (I often get them to draw the topics from a lucky dip box sometimes 
interspersed with a few fun ones  like  “you win a chocolate, draw again” just 
to lighten the mood).

 

If planning to create new articles and there are new (or newish) people, then 
remember that the first new article is often an unpleasant experience, doubly 
so if they end up in Article for Creation (a pit of doom from which few emerge 
alive as contributors). If I have that situation (almost always the case), I 
will have created stubs in advance (usually just 2 sentences and 2 citations 
for notability), so newer users don’t have to create any article, just expand 
it. Is this a lot of work? Yes. Does it avoid problems? Absolutely.

 

The other thing with freshly minted stubs is that they are not on anyone’s 
watchlist. While alerting other editors via watchlist may bring helpful 
assistance, it more often brings reverts, nasty talk page messages and other 
newbie-discouraging things. If you are not creating new articles but expanding 
existing articles, I would suggest sticking with smaller and less-read articles 
as this reduces the likelihood of active pagewatchers. Also, it is easier for a 
newcomer to add content to an under-developed article than to a better article 
article (there is just more scope). Remember, your participants want to be able 
to go home and show the family a Wikipedia article and say “look, I added 
this!” so it needs to survive long enough for bragging rights!

 

If the theme of the event is likely to involve Living People or medical topics, 
I am tempted to say re-consider the event. Seriously, you have to hammer home 
the citation requirements in these areas. Note that there are other 
WikiProjects whose standards are very high but perhaps in different ways (what 
is or isn’t a reliable source etc). Try to ensure you do have an experienced 
editor in that topic space at least available to give advice in advance unless 
you want a session of revert pain.

 

You may also have paid editing if the people are employees/contracters/board 
members etc of the organisation hosting/organising the event or if the themes 
for the content creation relate to the organisation. Paid editing MUST be 
declared under the Terms of Service and don’t make exceptions for “it’s the 
weekend” or “I’m on leave this week”. The easiest way to disclose is to put it 
on their user page “I am an employee of Foo Inc”.

 

 <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Paid-contribution_disclosure> 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Paid-contribution_disclosure

 

When in doubt (e.g. interns, volunteers and one contract finishing and another 
starting in a week), I advise to err in favour of disclosing the relationship. 
This isn’t a pillar, a policy, a guideline, or an essay or something for the 
community to decide. It’s the Terms of  Service for contributing laid down by 
WMF. Non-negotiable! If people do not like it (and there will be some who 
won’t, mentioning privacy etc), they are free to leave.

 

I also have the CoI discussion. If people have drawn a topic that they might 
have CoI with, they should redraw. Given the set of topics, the theme of the 
event, and any organisation involved, you may have to explain the CoI line 
differently with some concrete examples. With academics, I usually say no 
immediate colleagues in their own institution, no collaborators at other 
institutions, not their own PhD supervisor/students. But to say “no to anyone 
in your field” when the theme is the field makes it impossible to run the 
event; this is why you have to understand the situation in advance to work out 
a reasonable position on what it/isn’t CoI given the nature of the event.

 

Next is CopyVio. Many people think anything on the web is fair game (which is 
obviously not the case) but even among people who do have a basic grasp of 
copyright, you get lines like “my university won’t mind” (which is often quite 
true in practice, but if the webpage doesn’t have a suitable license, sorry!). 
Similarly people in organisations like historical societies view the collection 
of the society as communal property and happily say it can be reused but in 
fact they have a bundle of material with no known providence so you can’t even 
assess its likely copyright status. Ugh!

 

Latecomers. Yep, some people won’t arrive on time. The problem if they arrive 
late is that they won’t have heard what you just said about Paid Editing, 
Conflict of Interest and CopyVio. In an ideal universe, you have plenty of 
other volunteers to assist you with getting the late comers up to speed. If you 
don’t have plenty of volunteers (almost always the case), I don’t have a good 
solution for you (apart from having everything you’ve just told everyone else 
written on a bit of paper to hand to them) and you should expect some issues to 
arise from that as they won’t read it. I don’t know if it relates to some 
inherent aspect of latecomers, but their subsequent editing is often more 
problematic than those who arrive on time (whether it be dangerous 
over-enthusiasm “I’ll just delete all this content and start again” or a 
complete lack of any observable IT skills “I can’t find the letter Y on the 
keyboard”). All you can do is encourage the organisers to urge people to arrive 
early to set up their account; you can’t turn away the latecomers (as much as I 
would like to at times).

 

Next. Use the Visual Editor. No “ifs” and “buts”. If you have newbies, teach 
them the Visual Editor. You will have to turn on the Visual Editor for them as 
it is not turned on by default with new accounts (I have been told it is but I 
have run enough events to know it isn’t!). Preferences > Editing > Editing 
mode: Show both tabs! (as beguiling as some of the other options may seem, do 
not be tempted by them, it will lead to them being “locked out” of the Visual 
Editor sooner or later – I don’t know if this is a bug or what, but it 
happens). What, *you* don’t know how to use the Visual Editor? Well, I didn’t 
either once upon a time and so I said “Right, from now on, I will only edit in 
the VE and I will persist even though it is different to what I am used  to and 
what my fingers are “programmed” to do and a slightly different way of thinking 
about an article, and I will do it until it is automatic because I can’t teach 
others if I am not fluent myself”. So I forced myself to learn it and found 
that it is actually a much nicer tool to use (with the exception of doing a lot 
of template work but even that is getting better). I now use VE for most of my 
editing, switching only into source editor for heavy-duty template work, or 
fixing broken syntax etc. I am not telling you to use the VE because I prefer 
it, I am telling you to use it because people learn it and remember it 10 times 
more easily than the source editor syntax. It really is a game-changer for 
bringing newbies on board. 

 

Once you have the room off and running with their editing, keep stressing two 
messages. One: add text with citations. Two: Save frequently. The first is 
obvious I hope. The second is because your event is probably stressing the 
local WiFi and sooner or later some hiccup leads to someone losing an hour’s 
work. Generally by the time they have screamed for help, they’ve pressed random 
buttons and it’s too late to recover the situation. But try to Ctrl-A Ctrl-C 
(or Apple equivalent) whatever’s in their text box if it’s still on-screen and 
remember you may be able to get it by using the BACK button on the browser. 
From that point, you have some chance of recovery (although you probably should 
do the recovery).

 

Similarly if they get edit conflicts (usually some Manual of Style fanatic 
wanting to fix the spacing or the length of a dash), take control and fix it 
for them. The event is not the time to explain edit conflicts and what to do 
about them. This is another good reason for working on articles with no 
pagewatchers. Note, event organisers are often not familiar with edit conflicts 
so don’t let them ask people to all write on the same project page with their 
user name and article. Get them to email it instead. This is something to sort 
out in advance with them (they may be thinking that people can work in pairs on 
an article or other bad ideas). This is why I say TALK to them rather than 
point them at some documentation; you don’t realise just how little event 
organisers know until you talk to them.

 

Again, in my copious spare time during the event (ha ha!) I try to send out the 
Welcome messages to the new users and “thank” them for a couple of their more 
substantive edits. All good life-affirming stuff to do. If I don’t get time 
during the event, I do it as soon as possible after the event. Also, as soon as 
possible, I also do a check and tidyup of the articles worked on to remove any 
really big problems. Again it helps ensure their work survives for bragging 
right purposes.

 

Kerry

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Sent: Wednesday, 12 July 2017 6:34 AM
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Subject: [cultural-partners] What advice do you connect new editing event 
organizers with?

 

Hi All, 

 

I am hoping to add an Editing Events organizer training to the Programs and 
Events Dashboard in the coming months. I know there is a lot of documentation 
for editathons out there, including but not limited to what I have listed at:  
<https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Sharing_Knowledge#Editathons> 
https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Sharing_Knowledge#Editathons . What is 
your favorite piece of documentation (any language) for new Editathon runners? 

 

Cheers, 


Alex

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