Hi Barbara,

Thank you for your reply - I will be in touch very soon on exactly what you
have suggested. Joris, Jesse and I are preparing the documentation for a
Europeana Task Force focused on Wikimedia developments, to fit within their
wider framework of task forces
http://pro.europeana.eu/web/guest/network/task-forces
Its broad task will be to identify what has gone on (and currently going on
) in this space, and to set a strategy for future Europeana-Wikimedia
relations... and I think you've just nominated yourself to be part of it
:-) More on this soon...

I'd like to hear more about the "Lizenzhinweisgenerator" too as I am
setting the framework in this pre-wikimania period to build roadmap for a
WMF grant to develop the next-generation of the GLAMwikiToolset and related
projects.

-Liam

wittylama.com
Peace, love & metadata


On 3 July 2014 20:34, Barbara Fischer <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Liam and Eric,
>
> collaborating with GLAMs in Germany I can only stress how important
> technical support is to help GLAM to integrate their content to Wikimedia
> projects. Actually it is a trias of consultancy, technical support and
> seduce them with projects like coding da Vinci : the culture hackathon
> <http://codingdavinci.de/>.  We are planning to enhance this support by
> more intense collaboration with EUROPEANA through the GLAM Wiki Tool kit -
> hopefully with Liam -, by launching a "Lizenzhinweisgenerator
> <https://github.com/wmde/Lizenzverweisgenerator>" helping users in an
> easy way to quote and reuse legally correct the data files on Commons, and
> thus ensuring GLAMs that "their" content will be widely spread but thread
> to them. And triggering the discussion on license issues on all legal
> levels. We would really appreciate it, if there would something like an
> international "task force" making sure as one point that the different
> tools are accessible in the different languages in different chapters and
> adapting them to national law where it is required.
>
> As far as I can see time is right to harvest - let`s provide the service
> and tools to make it as easy and convenient as possible.
>
> The meet up of GLAM-coordinators at the Wikimania would be a good starting
> point. Lilli Illiev
> <http://wikimania2014.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Lilli_Iliev_(WMDE)>and Katja
> Ullrich
> <http://wikimania2014.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Katja_Ullrich_(WMDE)> will
> attend the Wikimania to meet as many of You as possible and share the
> knowledge.
>
> Best regards
>
> Barbara Fischer
> Kuratorin für Kulturpartnerschaften
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>
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>
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>
>
> 2014-06-26 13:54 GMT+02:00 Liam Wyatt <[email protected]>:
>
>>  Dear Erik,
>> (Also copying in the Cultural Partners and GLAMwiki Toolset mailing
>> lists as Erik's email below is directly is related to them).
>>
>> Thank you for this email with the explicit invitation for groups in the
>> Wikimedia movement to directly take responsibility for supporting the
>> technology needs of GLAM partnerships. Different groups in the movement
>> have different capacities and different areas of priority - and that is how
>> it should be :-) We each need to try and 'bite off what we can chew' in a
>> way that is coordinated, mutually beneficial, and not a duplication of each
>> others' efforts.
>>
>> To that end...
>> Over the last couple of years *Europeana*[1] has been increasingly
>> involved in supporting tech development for mediawiki that is
>> specifically targeted at addressing the needs of the GLAMwiki community.
>> I note that the report you linked to on the stats that GLAMs want[1] and
>> also the GLAMwiki Toolset for mass multimedia upload which you also
>> mentioned[2] are both *Europeana* projects - in collaboration with
>> several European Wikimedia Chapters.
>>
>> On behalf of *Europeana *I would like to confirm that we wish to become
>> even more involved in this area and has the full intention of supporting
>> further development in partnership with interested Chapters when possible.
>> In the fullness of time, we intend to apply for a WMF grant in order to
>> enable precisely that.
>>
>> On the mediawiki.org discussion page for the 2014/15 Engineering goals
>> there has been a fair bit of discussion about GLAM-related projects that
>> are not in the WMF's own plans[4]. Fabrice, as "process owner" for the
>> Multimedia section of those goals, has proposed on that talkpage a
>> couple of meetings of interested parties to discuss how we can all work
>> together effectively on this, notably in person at Wikimania, an offer
>> which we definitely accept :-) I also agree with Illario's point that
>> formalising WMF support for externally-developed software is an
>> important criteria in any grant decisions and for organisational
>> reputation. Fortunately Fabrice has specifically addressed this issue
>> relating specifically to the GLAMwiki Toolset which is very helpful.[5]
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Liam / Wittylama
>> GLAMWIKI coordinator, Europeana.
>>
>> [1] http://pro.europeana.eu/
>> [2] https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia
>> /commons/a/a2/Report_on_requirements_for_usage_and_reuse_statistics_for_GLAM_content.
>> pdf
>> [3] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:GLAMwiki_Toolset_Project
>> [4] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia
>> _Engineering/2014-15_Goals#Image_view_analytics
>> [5] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia
>> _Engineering/2014-15_Goals#GLAMwiki_Toolset
>>
>> wittylama.com
>> Peace, love & metadata
>>
>>
>> On 26 June 2014 05:54, Erik Moeller <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi folks,
>>>
>>> At the Zurich Hackathon, I met with a couple of folks from WM-CH who
>>> were interested in talking about ways that chapters can get involved
>>> in engineering/product development, similar to WM-DE's work on
>>> Wikidata.
>>>
>>> My recommendation to them was to consider working on GLAM-related
>>> tooling. This includes helping improve some of the reporting tools
>>> currently running in Labs (primarily developed by the illustrious and
>>> wonderful Magnus Manske in his spare time), but also meeting other
>>> requirements identified by the GLAM community [1] and potentially
>>> helping with the development of more complex MediaWiki-integrated
>>> tools like the GLAMWiki-Toolset.
>>>
>>> There's work that only WMF is well positioned to do (like feeding all
>>> media view data into Hadoop and providing generalized reports and
>>> APIs), but a lot of work in the aforementioned categories could be
>>> done by any chapter and could easily be scaled up from 1 to 2 to 3
>>> FTEs and beyond as warranted. That's because a lot of the tools are
>>> separate from MediaWiki, so code review and integration requirements
>>> are lower, and it's easier for technically proficient folks to help.
>>>
>>> In short, I think this could provide a nice on-ramp for a chapter or
>>> chapters to support the work of volunteers in the cultural sector with
>>> appropriate technology. This availability of appropriate technology is
>>> clearly increasingly a distinguishing factor for Wikimedia relative to
>>> more commercial offerings in its appeal to the cultural sector.
>>>
>>> At the same time, WMF itself doesn't currently prioritize work with
>>> the cultural sector very highly, which I think is appropriate given
>>> all the other problems we have to solve. So if this kind of work has
>>> to compete for attention with much more basic improvements to say the
>>> uploading pipeline or the editing tools, it's going to lose. Therefore
>>> I think having a "cultural tooling" team or teams in the larger
>>> movement would be appropriate.
>>>
>>> I've not heard back from WM-CH yet on this, but I also don't think
>>> it's an exclusive suggestion, so wanted to put the idea in people's
>>> heads in case other organizations in the movement want to help with
>>> it. I do want WMF to solve the larger infrastructure problems, but the
>>> more specialized tooling is likely _not_ going to be high on our
>>> agenda anytime soon.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Erik
>>>
>>> [1]
>>> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a2/Report_on_requirements_for_usage_and_reuse_statistics_for_GLAM_content.pdf
>>>
>>> --
>>> Erik Möller
>>> VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation
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