> On Feb 19, 2015, at 3:14 AM, Erik Moeller <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> 2) I say "within the context of the current proposal", because I would ask
> you to give serious consideration to the following question: Does
> GLAMWikiToolset need to existing within MediaWiki? When it was first
> developed, we didn't have OAuth (so a tool outside MediaWiki couldn't perform
> user actions), and our APIs were less mature. Today we have many examples of
> external tools that are doing amazing things. Magnus' tools have made tens of
> millions of edits to Wikidata. The Wiki Edu Foundation has created
> wizard.wikiedu.org and dashboard.wikiedu.org for managing student
> assignments and courses.
>
> I know we have GWT and so it seems natural to just fix bugs and improve it.
> But consider the long term development velocity. GWT is used by a very small
> subset of Wikimedia users, it's not "core site functionality" and does, as
> far as I can tell (I may be missing something), not benefit dramatically from
> deep integration. You pay a lot of cost for this integration without
> necessarily getting a lot of "bang for the buck".
>
> I would wager that if you started over with a new external tool, applying all
> the lessons learned so far and spending extra effort on UX, you could pretty
> quickly catch up with current functionality and then would move at a faster
> velocity from there. Consider where we want to be in 2016, 2018, 2020 -- is
> the strategy of maintaining a deeply integrated MediaWiki extension for this
> really sustainable or desirable? I think it's at least worth seriously
> considering the alternatives.
>
> Erik
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> Erik Möller
> VP of Product & Strategy, Wikimedia Foundation
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I'll be blunt: I will be using the toolset to upload millions of files. Taking
that into consideration: what kind of marginal cost are we looking at having an
external tool interfacing with the API instead of something built directly into
the software? These are media files, not byte-sized edits to Wikidata. Also,
how is uploading files—even large numbers of them—not a core function of a
media repository?
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