Ideally it should differentiate between editing the file and editing the categories of the file.
If the upload is simply a better version of the same thing then very few categories will change. > On 18 Dec 2015, at 11:35, Fæ <[email protected]> wrote: > > This is a good option for how GWT should handle "upgrades". Where > other volunteers have edited it makes sense to tidy these up manually > or by on-project negotiation. > > As an example, many of the 100,000 Wellcome images I uploaded were > plate illustrations, and I did go through a process of uploading > higher resolution images after initial batch testing. Some users > prefer to crop off the borders before they are used on Wikipedia or > elsewhere, and so there were instances where I had to make a judgement > call on whether to upload under new file names after such crops were > created. Similarly on a couple of my projects I have uploaded both > jpeg files and TIFF equivalents, sometimes at higher resolution or > without the compression degradation that jpeg causes; though there > have been several discussions about whether we should delete the jpegs > as duplicates we have always ended up keeping both formats. > > With these sorts of questions, although Commons has some relevant > guidelines for overwriting files and handling duplicates, it's a good > idea for very large upload projects to maintain its own guidelines + > casebook on an on-wiki project page where interested volunteers can > contribute views and ideas for how to manage housekeeping issues or > exceptional cases. None of this, I believe, can be simply resolved > with one shared GLAM manual with one way of working. > > Fae > >> On 18 December 2015 at 10:06, Hans Muller <[email protected]> wrote: >> @Arne and experts: >> We can overwrite a file with GWToolset provided no other user has edited >> the file. Perhaps experts are aware of further options with GWT for >> overwriting files. >> >> Examples: >> 1. GWToolset overwriting with a different resolution succeeded for >> >> >> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Naturalis_Biodiversity_Center_-_RMNH.MOL.216645_1_-_Ziba_annulata_%28Reeve,_1844%29_-_Mitridae_-_Mollusc_shell.jpeg >> >> checking the box "Reload media from URL" down the page. The new resolution >> is considered a new version. (Here a downgrade as a test.) The old version >> remains available. >> >> 2. GWToolset overwriting failed for >> >> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Naturalis_Biodiversity_Center_- >>>> _RMNH.MOL.216649_-_Mitra_aurantia_aurantia_%28Gmelin,_1791%29_-_Mitrida >>>> e_-_Mollusc_shell.jpeg >> >> with or without that box checked because >> >> "A media file with the identical title "File:Naturalis Biodiversity >> Center - RMNH.MOL.216649 - Mitra aurantia aurantia (Gmelin, 1791) - >> Mitridae - Mollusc shell.jpeg" already exists in the wiki. It was edited >> or created by someone other than you" >> >> - another user had edited the categories. >> >> Best regards, hans muller >> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Hansmuller >> >> Op Do, 17 december, 2015 12:39 pm schreef Arne Wossink: >>> @Hans, >>> >>> >>> Thanks for the input so far. Please keep me updated on that overwrite. If >>> anything, it is once again a reminder that these things must be done >>> right the first time around ;) >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> >>> >>> Arne Wossink >>> >>> >>> Projectleider / Project Lead Wikimedia Nederland >>> >>> >>> Tel. +31 (0)6 11000505 >>> (di, wo, do) >>> >>> >>> *Postadres*: * >>> Bezoekadres:* >>> Postbus 167 Mariaplaats 3 >>> 3500 AD Utrecht Utrecht >>> >>> >>> 2015-12-17 12:34 GMT+01:00 Hans Muller <[email protected]>: >>> >>> >>>> We're talking about >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Media_contributed_by_Museum >>>> _Catharijneconvent >>>> >>>> >>>> ? Main uploader there was HuskyBot i think. >>>> >>>> >>>> I made a mistake some months a go while uploading photographs of dead >>>> bird skins for Naturalis with GWToolset with various views for the same >>>> specimen uploaded under the same filename. So that is like uploading a >>>> higher resolution, an image with a different checksum under the same >>>> name. You see the result here: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Naturalis_Biodiversity_Center_- >>>> _RMNH.AVES.101712_-_Corvus_enca_compilator_Richmond,_1903_-_Corvidae_-_ >>>> bird_skin_specimen.jpeg >>>> >>>> (scroll down) >>>> Later uploads under the same filename by GWToolset were accepted as new >>>> versions. Caveat: the uploader was the same user for these various >>>> "versions". >>>> >>>> >>>> Best regards, hansmuller >>>> >>>> >>>> PS At the end of my present batch (18/12 morning?) GWToolset is >>>> requested to overwrite medium resolution >>>> >>>> >>>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Naturalis_Biodiversity_Center_- >>>> _RMNH.MOL.216649_-_Mitra_aurantia_aurantia_%28Gmelin,_1791%29_-_Mitrida >>>> e_-_Mollusc_shell.jpeg >>>> >>>> with large, so we'll see. I can put up a test image to test if another >>>> GWToolset user can overwrite >>>> it (?). I don't think so, this might be Arnes problem. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Op Do, 17 december, 2015 11:30 am schreef Jesse de Vos: >>>> >>>>> Hi Arne, >>>>> I actually don't think this can be done. It is an action in which an >>>>> existing file on Commons must be updated, this is not supported by the >>>>> toolset. We had a similar issue with higher res. Video files. We >>>>> decided to stick with the current resolution. Alternatively, a >>>>> volunteer could do this update using a script. Best, Jesse >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> verzonden vanaf mijn smartphone|sent from my smart phone Op 17 dec. >>>>> 2015 >>>>> 11:03 schreef "Hans Muller" <[email protected]>: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Dear Arne, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes, this is a modest batch that can be done with the GW toolset, >>>>>> most easily if the images each have a (temporary) individual URL and >>>>>> so are accessible on the internet. >>>>>> >>>>>> Groeten, hans muller >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Op Do, 17 december, 2015 10:57 am schreef Arne Wossink: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Museum Catharijneconvent has approached us that they would like >>>>>>> to make higher-resolution versions available of images that are >>>>>>> already available on Commons. Around 800-1500 images are involved. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Is this something that can be handled by the GW toolset, or are >>>>>>> there better ways to do this? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Arne Wossink >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Projectleider / Project Lead Wikimedia Nederland >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Tel. +31 (0)6 11000505 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *Postadres*: * >>>>>>> Bezoekadres:* >>>>>>> Postbus 167 >>>>>>> Mariaplaats >>>>>>> 3 >>>>>>> 3500 AD Utrecht Utrecht >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Glamtools mailing list >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/glamtools >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Glamtools mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/glamtools >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Glamtools mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/glamtools >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Glamtools mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/glamtools >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Glamtools mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/glamtools >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Glamtools mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/glamtools > > > > -- > [email protected] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae > Personal and confidential, please do not circulate or re-quote. > > _______________________________________________ > Glamtools mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/glamtools _______________________________________________ Glamtools mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/glamtools
