Dear all,

thanks for your help. The translation for the 3134 (or less) captions has
started.
Best regards, hansmuller

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Hansmuller

Op Ma, 9 mei, 2016 4:16 pm schreef Bas vb:
> Hi Maarten,
> I still had some similar code laying around. See
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Basvb/appendexample for the
> basics of what would be the possible python script in the case described
> by Hans. Mvg,
> Bas
> From: [email protected]
> Date: Mon, 9 May 2016 14:21:48 +0200
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Glamtools] adding 3134 captions after upload?
>
>
> I would love an example of such a method/action!
> Best,
> Maarten
> Op 9 mei 2016, om 14:14 heeft Bas vb <[email protected]> het volgende
> geschreven:This should be quite easy with pywikibot if the file-names and
> translations to add are given. If there are no indonesian translations
> currently in the descriptions the new translation can simply be appended
> after "|information=" Mvg,
> Bas
>
>> From: [email protected]
>> Date: Mon, 9 May 2016 12:36:19 +0100
>> To: [email protected]; [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [Glamtools] adding 3134 captions after upload?
>>
>>
>> There's no 'painless' solution. I have made similar housekeeping
>> updates to very large batch uploads post-upload using pywikibot using
>> short scripts. Amongst other things, pywikibot can pull up the specific
>> image page history and tell which past edits have been made and by whom,
>> then make intelligent decisions on whether to add information or how to
>> best do it. Terribly handy for avoiding doing something twice.
>>
>> I suggest not being in a hurry. Focus on getting the translations
>> done, if amenable to it, it would be worth training up the translator so
>> they write the new text directly into the image templates rather than
>> somewhere else. If this would be too difficult, then just get the
>> translations as a file or spreadsheet, mapped against the related
>> Commons images or reference numbers. There are several bot writers
>> that might be interested in plugging the extra translations seamlessly
>> into the current image pages once the data is ready. The best place to
>> ask for a Commons bot specialist is on the bots work requests page.[1]
>>
>> As you do so much of this stuff, I strongly recommend you try playing
>> around with Python and pywikibot yourself, perhaps delaying this
>> translation fix so you can use it to practice with. A script to do what
>> you are looking for might only take around 20 or 30 lines of original
>> programming, most of pywikibot's power lies in the handy modules that
>> have been written to do exactly this sort of thing. See the advice and
>> code examples in the manual.[2]
>>
>> Links
>> 1. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Bots/Work_requests
>> 2. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Pywikibot
>>
>>
>> Fae
>>
>>
>>
>> On 9 May 2016 at 12:19, Hans Muller <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>>
>>> ** Is it possible to add 3134 captions to existing images on Commons?
>>>  ** (without removing earlier work on the images, metadata and
>>> categories)
>>>
>>> This nice question presents itself in the following case. Recently, i
>>>  uploaded 3134 images from Dutch University Library Leiden UBL and
>>> KITLV to
>>>
>>>
>>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Media_contributed_by_KITL
>>> V_2016_-_Art_-_Temp
>>> (309 colonial works of art)
>>>
>>>
>>> and
>>>
>>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Media_contributed_by_KITL
>>> V_2016_-_Temp
>>> (2805 colonial photographs)
>>>
>>>
>>> with captions in Dutch and English. I corrected the metadata,
>>> categorised the images and put them into Wikipedia articles (only a
>>> few ;-)
>>>
>>> Now a translator might be paid to translate the captions into Bahasa
>>> Indonesia, the language of the people perhaps most interested in these
>>>  historical images. If the translator succeeds, that would mean
>>> require language templates like
>>>
>>> {{id|1= ... }}
>>>
>>>
>>> to the description fields.
>>>
>>> Re-uploading with GWToolset proved to be impossible if another user
>>> has worked on the metadata since upload. Categorisation and my own
>>> corrections to the metadata would be lost.
>>>
>>> * Is there another, painless solution putting in the new translation
>>> while keeping the previous work on these files?
>>>
>>> Thanks for you considering this problem,
>>> Best regards from a sunny Utrecht, the Netherlands,
>>>
>>>
>>> hans muller https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Hansmuller
>>>
>>
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