On 10/01/2012 16:18, Dan Doel wrote:
Copying the list, sorry. I have a lot of trouble replying correctly
with gmail's interface for some reason. :)

On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 11:14 AM, Dan Doel<dan.d...@gmail.com>  wrote:
On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 5:01 AM, Simon Marlow<marlo...@gmail.com>  wrote:
On 09/01/2012 04:46, wren ng thornton wrote:
Shouldn't (# T #) be identical to T?

No, because (# T #) is unlifted, whereas T is lifted.  In operational terms,
a function that returns (# T #) does not evaluate the T before returning it,
but a function returning T does.  This is used in GHC for example to fetch a
value from an array without evaluating it, for example:

  indexArray :: Array# e ->  Int# ->  (# e #)

I don't really understand this explanation. (# T #) being unlifted
would mean it's isomorphic to T under the correspondence e<->  (# e
#). _|_ = (# _|_ #) : (# T #), so this works.

Does the difference have to do with unboxed types? For instance:

    foo :: () ->  Int#
    foo _ = foo ()
    bar :: () ->  (# Int# #)
    bar _ = (# foo () #)

    baz = case bar () of _ ->  5  -- 5
    quux = case foo () of _ ->  5 -- non-termination

Because in that case, either (# Int# #) is lifted, or the Int# is
effectively lifted when inside the unboxed tuple. The latter is a bit
of an oddity.

Unboxed types cannot be lifted, so in fact bar compiles to this:

  bar = \_ -> case foo () of x -> (# x #)

and both baz and quux diverge.

It might help to understand (# T #) by translating it to (# T, () #). There's really no difference.

Cheers,
        Simon

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