No, many patients have done it and I havent had a complaint. I dont
know if I'd be comfortable buying my main pair of progressives on
line, again both can coexist. So I order my main pair thru my
corporate host store. But, if I wanted a second pair, I would consider
it and maybe just try it so I see with my "picky eyes" how they feel.
I think we're going to need a universal sizing system that allows for
facial widths etc and eye position, our hi tech smart guys will come
up with something.

Michael Katz

On Sep 17, 10:29 am, undone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> OnlinelDoc, I'm curious - have you ordered online yet? Have any of
> your employees? If so, what has been your experience thusfar? How does
> the online product compared to the products you have access to?
>
> Your comments and input are much appreciated!
>
> On Sep 17, 12:54 am, bateye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > as more & more people discover purchasing glasses online I can see
> > that the demise of the traditional optometrist shop is coming.
> > business models will have to change
> > why don't more optometrists see this disruptive force coming?
>
> > It would be great if optometrists / opthalmologists
> > a.  offer eye health checkup
> > b.  provide a choice of
> > -full service eyeglass/contact service at a reasonable markup, ie shop
> > will do all the leg work including samples available to try on
> > -partial service with a given choice of online vendors with follow-up
> > upon receipt of the glasses.  follow-up to entail checking of lab work
> > and adjustments/repairs and possibly follow-up with online vendor in
> > case of possible errors
> > -partial service with other online vendors with minimal follow-up -
> > follow-up to only entail checking of lab work but patient to do any
> > follow-up with online vendor
>
> > each of these choices will possibly at different price levels based on
> > the amount of service provided by the optometrist/ophtalmologist
>
> > On Sep 16, 3:42 pm, onlineIDoc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > One thing that attracts my common sense is that most posts are happy
> > > with their purchase. In any optical shop, we deal all day with
> > > complaints. I guess after the heavy sell they expect some service,
> > > attention, etc instead of ...... here.
>
> > > So I guess we expect a little less this way , pay much less for very
> > > little less (service, or hipressure selling"), and overall rate the
> > > purchase a sucess. Many of my patients go this route, I I explain how
> > > to do it let alone pd. The reason I am not afraid of my host store
> > > "throwing me out for that", is multifold. Forst of all, people want
> > > that kind of service and I give it at a fair,(cheap) price  because I
> > > can as fo years I devoloped and purchased the
> > > software,hardware,training and equipment needed to do this, Back then
> > > I got more money but reinvested it into the practice to develope to
> > > the point where I can see patients at a reasonable rate for a correct
> > > lengthy of time and do a thourough exam, get a good rx and discuss it
> > > with them. I do have technicians most of the time run the "pretests",
> > > a battery of machines that take no skill to measure objectice rx, ks,
> > > IOP(glaucoma) and in my practice fields ( pripheral vision) and we
> > > take a retinal photo which networks so any exam room can pick it right
> > > up.
>
> > > There will always be customers for internet, brickm and mortar, but
> > > the percentages will change. More will move towrards internet if the
> > > success rate is so high, and complainers usually respond more than
> > > happies,The only angry stuff is from the "professionals" who's
> > > percentage of the market will shrink, and most will go down with the
> > > titanic,
>
> > > Greetings,
>
> > > Michael Katz OD
>
> > > On Sep 16, 5:26 pm, deborah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > AMEN!
>
> > > > I am really grateful that I found this board JUST as I was in the
> > > > process of ordering new glasses.  I saved roughly $400 compared to the
> > > > SAME glasses if I had gone ahead and gotten them from the store I was
> > > > planning to buy from (Europtics.  By the way, Europtics stinks - VERY
> > > > high prices and super-duper high pressure selling.)
>
> > > > Deborah
>
> > > > On Sep 16, 12:23 pm, onlineIDoc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > As most know I am an optometrist who is in favor of bringing down
> > > > > costs of optical goods and on line selling is definitely a great
> > > > > method. Watching the events on Wall Street and past few weeks implies
> > > > > that times will get harder for most of us, we may have been on a
> > > > > spending binge the past few years, but a reversal is occuring.
>
> > > > > In many third world countries, people just don't receive eyecare at
> > > > > all , and just live with the inability to see. I have seen 40+
> > > > > imigrants see for the first time and it is amazing to watch.
>
> > > > > I think we as a world community must use all available resources, not
> > > > > to make eyecare more expensive and less available, but the opposite,
> > > > > to make it more affordable and I think Ira gets this too.
>
> > > > > I think that this will grow into a much bigger community as people
> > > > > seek alternatives.
>
> > > > > I'm glad to see opticians on board who "get it" and as an optometrist
> > > > > I "get it" and will answer questions, give opinions etc.
>
> > > > > Good Luck to everyone here, you are pioneers in what will be the
> > > > > future very soon.
>
> > > > > Michael Katz OD
>
> > > > > kudos to Ira for having the foresite to get this board going now.

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