That's interesting. You might be right about that, although, I'm not
sure how they were able to keep selling me on hi-index lenses when my
prescription was around -3.00.

Thanks for the in-depth report.

- Ira

On Aug 5, 10:26 am, "J. Evan" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I'm not so sure about that Ira.
>
> I've got five pairs of glasses with 1.67 index lenses of nearly
> identical width (+/- 1.0mm). Each one was made at a different lab -
> two at a B&M lab in Los Angeles, the others were from Zenni, Coastal
> Contacts and another Chinese retailer. Zenni's are by far the thickest
> - 2.2mm at the edge, 4.96mm at the center, in a full rim metal frame.
> The rimless lenses are about 2mm at the edges and vary from 3.6mm to
> 3.9mm at the center. As a reference, I also have a polycarbonate
> rimless pair from LBW Eyewear, with lens edges of 2.55mm and a center
> thickness of 5.32mm. And, my most recent pair of rimless are 1.74
> index (Coastal Contacts) are 2.0mm thin, 3.4mm thick.
>
> I've never seen opticians have mockups of the exact same frame and
> prescription but in different index lenses - this surely cannot be due
> to cost, as we know lenses cost very little to make - I suspect it's
> more to protect the labs from having to be consistent. It looks like
> labs use different size diameter blanks (65, 70, 75mm) depending on
> the application and some do additional surfacing to try and thin the
> lens edges. These factors are more likely to blame for the differences
> in thicknesses.
>
> Further to the OP point of US standards being more safety-biased than
> everyone else, this is a well known fact, google 'ball drop
> test' (http://www.ecpmag.com/1webmagazine/2008/01jan/content/FDA-
> impact-resistance.asp).  Getting glass lenses made in the US is
> extremely difficult - many opticians gasp at the thought of crown
> glass lenses - they've been very well indoctrinated by the industry
> that they're not safe. Many other retailers won't dispense rimless
> frames in anything other than Poly - even though we know very well
> that MR-10 1.67 Seiko is just as crack/shatter resistant.
>
> Just speak with a US lab technician, they'll tell you that they won't
> go less than 1.5mm or 2.0mm for a center thickness - when in Germany
> and Italy for example, they regularly machine to 1.0mm CT - the UK
> might have similar standards. There are clear differences in lab
> standards between the US and even Canada - have a look at the
> OptiBoards forums and it's well covered.
>
> You are right that optical center can have a significant impact as
> well and that may very well be a factor here.
>
> J. Evan
>
> On Aug 5, 4:53 pm, Ira  Mitchell <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I'd assume the laws of physics are much more important in this
> > instance than those of the United States.
>
> > Sounds to me like either you didn't get 1.67 or the optical center of
> > the lens is further from that "thick edge".
>
> > - Ira
>
> > On Aug 4, 2:28 pm, Jon Edwards <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > I have just moved to the US, and bought myself new glasses at
> > > Lenscrafters.  To my surprise, with an identical prescription (-7.00),
> > > identical high-index (1.67) and identical frame size and shape, my US
> > > glasses are a good two millimetres thicker at the thickest point.
>
> > > I'm told that this is because safety standards vary around the world
> > > regarding lens cutting, and US lens manufacturers have different
> > > standards (presumably because the US is so litigious).  Apparently the
> > > UK and Hong Kong both cut thinner lenses.
>
> > > That being so, any insight as to where the lenses are cut for online
> > > stores, in general or specifically?  And under what standard?
>
> > > Any information at all very welcome!
>
> > > Thanks
>
> > > Jon
>
>
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