On Saturday, 9 May 2026 18:46:35 British Summer Time Ron via GLLUG wrote:
> Chris Bell via GLLUG wrote on 2026-05-09 07:30:
> > I have logged in using ssh
> 
> I think this will come in useful...
> 
> > ... but the image displayed just the standard background without the
> > standard bottom left "Menu" icon or the lower panel.
> 
> Could this be a scaling issue where the desktop "thinks" it's on a, say,
> 1920x1080 display but resolution is 800x600?

Almost certainly the initial cause of the problem, so I disconnected the 
second monitor, but discovered the problem on the main output when I switched 
the main monitor input


> 
> On my KDE, Alt+[Space] triggers the KDE "Runner" drop-down at top of
> screen to enter commands, searches, etc.
> 
> Can that be triggered? If so, does entering these do anything?

yes
> 
> plasmashell --replace

Reports Toolbox invalid or disabled
> 
> kwin_x11 --replace (adjust if Wayland is used, that's from my historical
> usage)
> 
> > Ctl+Alt+F2 showed me a normal GUI login screen but with no keyboard
> > input,
> 
> Is there not a virtual keyboard in the options? Worth looking for but I
> may be wrong.
> 
> Also, I thought Ctrl+Alt+F1 was GUI login and the higher F-keys were all
> TTYs? My memory may be outdated.

Yes, the Ctl+Alt+FunctionKeys appear to be in the wrong order
> 
> > I can still do a remote ssh login, but KDE appears to have crashed,
> > and the only option I seem to have left is to re-install Debian.
> > Thanks for any suggestions.
> 
> Via `ssh`, some probing of `dmesg` might show what went wrong.
> 
> If nothing there, some probing of:
> 
> systemctl --user status plasma[Tab][Tab] should auto-complete a bunch of
> user-land plasma services. Others via kde[Tab][Tab].

No results

I managed to open a debug console which showed (copied via paper)
Wayland Windows
-:__Konsole             KWin:XdgTop...
active                  true
activities                      displayed a UUID
bufferGeometry          479,309,961x488
caption                 -:__Konsole
captionNormal           -:__Konsole
clientGeometry          479,309,961x488
closeable                       true
colorScheme             kdeglobal
desktopFileName         org.kde.konsole
desktops                        empty
frameGeometry           478,281 963x517
height                  517
Icon                    empty
IconGeometry            0,0 0x0
internalid                      displayed a UUID
layer                   NormalLayer
managed                 true
maxSize                 2.12748e+09x2.14748e+09
maximizable             true
moveable                        true
moveableAcrossScreens   true
normalWindow            true
objectName                      empty
opacity                 1
output                  empty
Pid                     12134
pos                     478,281
rect                    0,0 963x517
resizeable                      true
resourceClass           org.kde.konsole
resourceName            konsole
size                    963x517
stackingOrder           1
tile                    empty
transientFor            empty
wantsInput                      true
width                   963
windowRole                      empty
windowType                      net:normal
X                       478
Y                       281
X11 Unmanaged Windows   empty
X11 Windows             empty
(Many) other lines were all     false
> 
> 
> Just saw the Logitech errors mentioned in a follow-up. Curious what
> comes of that.
Almost definitely complaining as I turned off the keyboard and mouse before 
returning the screen to my main computer.

Thanks for the help, but it looks as though it will be quicker to give up and 
re-install.
-- 
Chris Bell
www.chrisbell.org.uk



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