> There are the marginal cases, e.g. great-grandpa Lindzen. I don't > think we can as easily dismiss those as, say, Oreskes claims, but they > are strikingly rare.
Although I once described Lindzen as a charlatan, I now see that he is substantially correct. The climate models are completely wrong being based on the idea that the OLR (outgoing longwave radiaition) increases to balance changes in solar flux. In fact what happens is that evaporation increases producing more cloud and so increases the albedo. It is the change in albedo which leads to the TOA (top of the atmosphere) balance, not changes in OLR. It is not just me and Lindzen who say that! G.C. Simpson had already worked that out in the 1930s, but Goody was convinced by Pekeris that Emden was right and, as they say, the rest is history, and probably no future for us :-( There is another recruit to our flag, and that's Nicola Scafetta, PhD. But the establishment won't admit that they are wrong. We will have to wait for those professors to die before their ideas die :-( See: http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2006/10/how-not-to-attribute-climate-change/ Of course I should not leave out Ferdi, but he like Lindzen seems to think that the models are over estimating the problem, but the effects will be worse. The tropics will not warm by much due to AGW, but the poles will have to reach the temperature of the tropics before they max out, under a thick cloud cover. That is what the recent drilling of the Eocene sediments in the Arctic are telling us. Cheers, Alastair. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Global Change ("globalchange") newsgroup. Global Change is a public, moderated venue for discussion of science, technology, economics and policy dimensions of global environmental change. Posts will be admitted to the list if and only if any moderator finds the submission to be constructive and/or interesting, on topic, and not gratuitously rude. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/globalchange -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
