Alastair McDonald wrote:
>> That hardly has any relevance for practical decision making, though. I 
>> see no plausible mechanism whereby anything we do over the next 100 
>> years (let alone the next decade or two) could result in a 20C 
>> temperature rise, even as a future commitment let alone 2100 climate.
> 
> But have you looked for a plausible mechanism?  If not, then it is not
> surprising that you have not found one.  

OK, more pedantically, "No-one has presented any plausible mechanism..."

> 
> In your previous post you wrote:
> 
>> While I would be the first to admit that subjectivity necessarily plays 
>> a part in scientific judgments, the more traditional approach (at least 
>> in theory) would normally be to examine the evidence first, and base 
>> one's beliefs on that, rather than starting from the belief and 
>> searching for something to prop it up with :-)
> 
> With an attitude like that you are not going to make any surprising 
> discoveries.  The scientific method includes asking questions, 
> proposing solutions and searching for evidence to prove or 
> disprove them.  According to your method no one should ever propose 
> a hypothesis, they should only present incontrovertible theories.

No, it is completely reasonable to propose hypotheses that may be wrong, 
and to look for evidence that speaks to them. Such evidence may either 
support or falsify such hypotheses and their alternatives - some strict 
Popperians might say that we can only really falsify, but IMO the 
reality is a bit more flexible.

> But worse, you seem to equate beliefs with scientific judgments. 

No, I was actually objecting to Coby's statement of belief *in advance 
of any scientific judgement*. In a strict sense, the existence of a 
prior belief is necessary given a basically Bayesian approach, but in 
that case it had better be pretty vague. If your belief is not amenable 
to being influenced by scientific evidence, then you aren't being 
scientific.

James

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