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From: "Hank Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Newsgroups: gmane.science.general.global-change
To: "globalchange" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 12:30 PM
Subject: [Global Change: 1892] http://www.nd.edu/~philinst/energy.html 
(Sayre, Notre Dame, well worth reading)


>    Chapter 2    Entropy and Disorder
<...>
>    Chapter 17  Values for Survival
>    Chapter 18  What Can Be Done? What Can One Do?

I am pleased to see no leap of logic straight from entropy to "what can one 
do", putting the question of human ethical values in its proper place as the 
fulcrum upon which human action is weighed and decided.  Therefore worthy of 
a closer look, IMO.

*repost of an ancient gem*
Physicist Alvin Weinberg, in a review of _Entropy: A New World View_ by 
Jeremy Rifkin and Ted Howard in _Population and Development Review_, Vol. 7, 
No. 2. (Jun., 1981), pp. 345-348, writes:



"Stalin demonstrated that social movements, ordained by the workings of 
grand scientific laws, too often are captured by human beings driven by lust 
for power.  The result is a quantum increase in human suffering, justified 
always by the claim that the new social configuration conforms more closely 
to the Laws of Science -- whether the dialectical materialism of Marx or the 
second law of thermodynamics of Jeremy Rifkin.  Let the new Entropists 
remember this lesson of history before they reject so easily the more humane 
approach of the technological optimists for staving off the dilemmas of 
Malthus or of Georgescu-Roegen." p. 348

*end quote*

-dl



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