It is not just Younger Dryas but also numerous other abrupt climate jumps 
during the last Ice Age cycle known as Dansgaard-Oeschger and Heinrich events 
are all thought to be linked to fresh-water fluxes and resulting disruption of 
North Atlantic deep water formation. There is a lot of literature on this 
topic, but here is a good summary paper:

 Alley, R.B. Wally Was Right: Predictive Ability of the North Atlantic 
“Conveyor Belt” Hypothesis for Abrupt Climate Change. Earth and Planetary 
Sciences35, 241-272 (2007).   
 http://shadow.eas.gatech.edu/~kcobb/abrupt/alley07.pdf.  

"Linked, abrupt changes of North Atlantic deep water formation, North Atlantic 
sea ice extent, and widespread climate occurred repeatedly during the last ice 
age cycle and beyond in response to
changing freshwater fluxes and perhaps other causes. This paradigm, developed 
and championed especially byW.S. Broecker, has repeatedly proven to be 
successfully predictive as well as explanatory with
high confidence. Much work remains to fully understand what happened and to 
assess possible implications for the future, but the foundations for this work 
are remarkably solid."

Chris Turney has a whole chapter on this in his book Ice, Mud and Blood Lessons 
from the climate past.

As for Tsonis and Swanson, you are of course aware of their recent paper:

 Swanson, K.L., Sugihara, G. & Tsonis, A.A. Long-term natural variability and 
20th century climate change. Proceedings of the National Academy of 
Sciences106, 16120-16123 (2009).  
http://www.pnas.org/content/106/38/16120.abstract

"Global mean temperature at the Earth's surface responds both to
externally imposed forcings, such as those arising from anthropogenic
greenhouse gases, as well as to natural modes of variability internal
to the climate system. Variability associated with these latter
processes, generally referred to as natural long-term climate
variability, arises primarily from changes in oceanic circulation. Here
we present a technique that objectively identifies the component of
inter-decadal global mean surface temperature attributable to natural
long-term climate variability. Removal of that hidden variability from
the actual observed global mean surface temperature record delineates
the externally forced climate signal, which is monotonic, accelerating
warming during the 20th century."

So, do you accept that (having removed natural variability) we have externally 
forced climate signal, which is monotonic, accelerating warming during the 20th 
century?

 

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From: Eric Swanson <[email protected]>
To: globalchange <[email protected]>
Sent: Sat, 30 January, 2010 14:36:27
Subject: [Global Change: 3635] Re: A complex systems metatheory for abrupt  
climate change is a paradign shift in climate science

Robert,

I'm very much concerned about the possibility of rapid climate
change.  So are many others who study climate.  The ultimate question
is, are we in the process of CAUSING such a dramatic shift and,f if
so,  could such a major shift be prevented or even reversed?

Robert Indigo Ellison wrote:
> Dear Eric,
>
> The science consensus supports the notion of earth climate as a
> complex and dynamic system at scales ranging from ENSO to ice ages and
> beyond.  The answer to the first question of Rind - you recall - is
> emphatically yes.  Climate bounces around like a spinning top on a
> rough surface.  There are multiple equilibria - multiple point (b)'s
> in the simple mechanical analogy - and constant more or less eccentric
> departures.  I am afraid climate is not stable at all - but there does
> seem to be some consistency with ocean temperature +/- 5 degrees
> keeping the planet survivable.

Climate has been relatively stable over the Holocene.  Of course, we
know that there were repeated periods of colder conditions called Ice
Ages.  this might lead one to conclude that there are only a few
stable conditions, that is, Ice Age or Not Ice Age.  The problem is,
what if increases in CO2 in some way CAUSE the Earth to flip back into
the Ice Age condition?

> I sure you can do it - forget simple cause and effect and a single
> cause for every event.  Imagine energy cascading through the
> cyrosphere, atmosphere, hydrosphere and biosphere.  The earth climate
> system doesn't respond simply to a single factor - there are mulitple
> feedbacks operating simultaneaously and many degrees of freedom.
> Adams 'cascade of powerful mechanisms'. Small changes in initial
> conditions cause system flucuation - or abrupt change in the sense of
> the National Academy of Science definition of being out of proportion
> to the initial forcing.

One reason that apparently small changes, such as the Milankovitch
orbital variations, produce larger changes is the apparent positive
feedback within the climate system.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milankovitch_cycles

Alley discusses this in some detail in his lecture to which I
pointed.  Do you agree with his emphasis on CO2 as the driving
mechanism for those changes?  If so, why would you not be worried
about mankind's increasing emissions of CO2 and other greenhouse
gases?

> There is an interesting read at the QEN - 
> http://www.esd.ornl.gov/projects/qen/transit.html
> - already linked to.  The Younger Dryas is one amongst many warming
> and cooling periods in the Quaternary with multiple possible contributing 
> factors.

The Adams paper is dated 1999 and is a bit out of date with respect to
the latest findings.  Here's a link to a PDF of  the paper, which is a
bit easier to read:

http://ethomas.web.wesleyan.edu/adamsetal99.pdf

The Younger Dryas started with a well known single event, a flood of
fresh water related to the melting of the glaciers over Canada.  That
event is not repeatable in the present situation, thus it is not part
of some chaotic oscillation, or what ever you are trying to claim it
is.  That said, there appears to be an ongoing change in salinity in
the Nordic Seas, which may result in a shutdown of the THC.  It is
thought that the abrupt climate change seen in the Younger Dryas
switch was the result of a shutdown of the THC.  Therefore, it is
reasonable to assume that should the freshening of the Nordic Seas
continue, which is likely to be a result of global warming, could
produce another cold period similar to the Younger Dryas event.  I
think that the Younger Dryas event should be taken as a warning of the
potential danger hidden within the problem of AGW.

E. S.
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