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the end of a hard day of flying...  ahhhhh............   "-)     John in
BOI

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Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 07:44:18 -0600
From: "Larry Wilkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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By the way, what ever happened to that old ding dong (truth teller)?
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> Hmmm ....
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> Since he's such a safety expert (he even knows my airplane better than I
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Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 09:12:14 -0500
From: "Dennis Spiegel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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He told all his truth had none left he fell off the earth.





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Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 10:05:11 -0700
From: Bob Saville <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Maybe somebody 'dinged' his 'dong'.

Larry Wilkins wrote:

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> By the way, what ever happened to that old ding dong (truth teller)?
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> > Hmmm ....
> >
> > Since he's such a safety expert (he even knows my airplane better than
I
> > do), I volunteer the "Truth Teller" guy as a guine pig.
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> > I'll even pack his 'chute and buy the gas.
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Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 10:06:14 -0700
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Promises, Promises, Promises!!!

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Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 11:21:36 -0700 (PDT)
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You ever hear the expression, "Let sleeping dogs lie."

Spook

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Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 14:30:15 -0400
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Or even, let lying dogs sleep.

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Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 14:33:54 -0500
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HA! Good one. That lightened up my otherwise crummy day.

Thanks.

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Or even, let lying dogs sleep.

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>You ever hear the expression, "Let sleeping dogs lie."
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>Spook





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Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2002 22:04:21 -0700
From: "Joa and Kristie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: late model nose gear fluid level


Wahoo, finally finished rebuilding my nose gear.  New rings, inner
cylinder,
steering collar, etc.  She's better than ever!  Can't say it was a fun job
but was sortof in a strange way :)

I've searched high and low and can't seem to find the amount to fill my
nose
gear (non-dipstick model).  Anybody help here?

BTW, just an update on oak control wheel hubs- I'm about 80% of the way
through my first set (prototype) and they're looking and fitting super!
Thanks to all that responded with interest in ordering a set- I'll be
sending out pics of this first set here shortly.

Keep em flying!

Joa
N94432
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Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 17:56:37 -0400 (EDT)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (James Lloyd)
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Subject: Re: [COUPERS]  late model nose gear fluid level


Joa,if no one knows,I can pull my wire out of mine this weekend and
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Joa;I have a note in my service manual that says the red mark is 9 and 1/2

inches from the top of the strut and green mark on NLG gauge is 6" below
top.
 Page 40 of the service manual says to "refill the strut to the red line
on 
the gauge with the strut extended. In static position, fluid is at green 
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Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 23:12:47 -0400 (EDT)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (James Lloyd)
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Thanks for the expert response Lynn,you saved me the trouble of getting
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Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 02:57:44 -0700
From: "Joa and Kristie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: wing tank rebuild


Well tonight I finally bit the bullet and dove into the black gooey stuff!
After hearing horror story after horror story from RV builders about
Pro-Seal I was pleasantly surprised to find it isn't all that bad.

A buddy and I just finished up the LH tank in about 2 hours flat.  Of this
about 1:15 was spent riveting and sealing and about 45 spent cleaning up
smears and smudges, etc.

Sure it was messy and took a lot of patience and constant cleaning but all
in all it was really easy.  Stripping and cleaning the tanks was by far
harder than pro-sealing and riveting them back together.

Here's a few tips....

1.  Plan on using a whole quart of acetone.  As soon as you pull a cleco
out
throw it in a coffee cup of acetone to keep the goop from destroying it.
We
only used about a dozen clecos btw.  I thought I'd use more but with two
people that's all we had to use.

2.  Buy a box of 50 latex gloves ($6.99 at Bi-Mart) and plan on using at
least half of them for each tank.  These get goobered up in a hurry plus
the
fingers tear off.  While you're at the store buy a pack of popsickle
sticks.

3.  Take your "rag bag" out with you and use lots of rags dipped in
acetone.
I took old socks and duct taped them around all my tools (one on each
handle
of the squeezer, etc) and this kept them nice and clean.  Definitely a
good
idea, especially since I borrowed the squeezer from an RV-9A builder
friend.

4.  Speaking of squeezers- you can do the whole thing with a rivet gun and
bucking bar and while you will have to use it for around the fittings (gas
cap, outlet, etc) I highly recommend finding a local RV builder and
borrowing their hand squeezer for all the edge rivets.  You'll need one
with
at least a 2" throat.  WIth the soft rivets squeezing is a *piece of
cake*!
Really, I did it most of the time with one hand since the rivets squeeze
so
easily.  And if you've never squeezed rivets before then invite the RV
builder over and buy him/her a case of Black Butte Porter for helping you
out for a couple hours.  Of course make sure to drink the beer *after*
you're done or you may end up permanently pro-sealed to your tank :)

4.  Buy the 3.5 oz Pro-Seal in a 6 oz cartridge. You'll need two and at
just
over $18 a piece (Aircraft Spruce) they're cheaper than buying a whole
pint
plus they are slicker than can be.  You pump the little handle and it
mixes
the stuff up for you in the cartridge in the perfect amount and then you
can
take the cartidge and put it in a standard calking gun and squeeze out
nice
beads wherever you want it.   Then just take the popsickle stick and
spread.
Very slick.  Plus the 3.5 oz ended up *exactly* the amount we needed.  We
weren't sure if we were going to make it but sure enough ended up blessed
:)

5.  If you even *think* your tanks need rebuilding get your mechanics
blessing and just do it!!!  Pro-Seal is amazing stuff and will surely last
another 50 years and you'll fly much happier knowing that the #1 cause of
engine related accidents (fuel issues) is drastically reduced by having
good
clean tanks.  And for gosh sakes if you have tanks that have been sloshed
then by ALL MEANS rebuild those buggers!  Believe me, I learned the hard
way!  Sloshing compound is bad news!

Keep em flying!

Joa
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