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From: Jan E Zanutto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 21:58:16 -0700
Subject: Re: [COUPERS-TECH] RE: Digest list: Ercoupe Technical discussion
(moderated)

Hello David,

glad you bought a coupe, and I hope it brings you  many years of flying
adventure. I have been on the list since around 1998, when I bought my
first coupe, I am on my third now........I have completely restored one,
and bought 2 others. It's a great plane, but let me offer my own
observation on the subject of owner maintenance. 

I too am an A&P instructor, and IA, and a Designated Mechanic's Examiner-
I just got back from Anaheim attending the renewal seminar. I have a
Bachelor's degree also, and I am published. If you read many of the
coupers postings they do include "my mech says",. or "my IA says...." I
know many of these guys personally and they know their airplanes inside
and out- better than just about any A&P. They fly with their wives,
children, and grandchildren in their coupes and they all have that in
mind.Can they legally do work without supervision by an A&P- no,
absolutely not. But they do anyway, and I will tell you why from my own
first-hand observations.

The aircraft  maintenance business is where the auto maintenance business
was, back in the 70's. Most GA mechanics (I am one, plus I have airline
experience) are dishonest, greedy crooks. They quote the owner one price,
then drag the plane into the hangar and when it emerges, it is several
hundred or even several thousand more than the original quote- the work
is frequently done without the owner's consent. Just 2 weeks ago, my
first coupe that I owned, and sold was annualed by a "nameless" shop here
in Fresno here- they charged the guy 4000.00 (yes, four thousand dollars)
for a piss-poor annual and the damn thing crashed on the first flight
because BCH didnt see that the fuel pump wasnt working. (yes the pilot
has responsibility too). One of my ex-student graduates opened up a shop
here locally, she is trying to make a start for herself. The same guys,
at the same company told her not to work so hard, or care so much. They
told her to just pull a plane in for an annual, close the hangar doors
for 3 days  then push it out and collect the check. 

Another local crook charged a guy 6000.00 (YES, SIX THOUSAND UNSCRUPULOUS
DOLLARS) to do nothing more than paint the fuselage of a fabric- covered
tri-pacer. I can supply many more examples, but I wont. 

It's no  wonder that any aircraft owner takes his/her maintenance into
their own hands. I would too if I werent already an A&P. These guys know
their planes. Yes there have been some odd postings in the past about
automotive parts on aircraft- that's not right and I wouldnt condone it.
But the A&P industry has a long way to go to regain the trust and respect
of aircraft owners. Until there is change, it will remain just like it
is....

Beside teaching the basics of the A&P curriculum, I always tell my
students to have integrity, be honest and not try to become rich off each
customer. Sorry Dave, my personal feelings are starting to surface and I
best stop now.......


By the way, I had a great time at the Salinas airshow and got to meet
Wayne and Audean. What a wonderful couple, what a tribute to coupe
ownership, and especially their interest in the public with their cute
little yellow T-6 pedal plane. They would let spectator's kids sit in it
and have their picture taken. Their coupe drew a LOT of interest- I got
the  final word though; when the show was over I departed Salinas on a
right cross-wind right over the entire airshow croud. They got to see a
coupe in  flight about 15 minutes after the Blue Angels peformed.   I had
to turn early because I had a P-51 and a B-25 on my butt.......


Jan Z
Fresno, CA
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