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First, I always used avgas in my Coupe. Second, it has been demonstrated that Auto Gas is OK in our engines. Thirdly, you can take precautions to make certain that water is not in the fuel that you put in your tanks. Fourthly, if there is alcohol in the auto gas, it must be labeled on the pump, and yes, the alcohol will deteriorate the rubber gaskets and seals. And lastly, if one figures the actual savings between avgas and Auto Gas, it just ain't worth the effort. Pity though that we can't get 80 octane avgas anymore. It's a real catch 22, cause Auto gas is probably better for our engines. If pilots using the Auto fuel would only follow the correct procedures and make certain the gas met the requirements for the STC, there wouldn't be any problems out there. Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Duffy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Percy Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Andy Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 10:10 PM Subject: Re: [COUPERS-FLYIN] Ercoupe 415-CD Registration C-FXJK Nonfatal > ----[Please read http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm before following any advice in this forum.]---- > > > As an A&P, I get asked all the time what I think of using auto fuel in > airplanes. I reply, that there is no quality control in auto fuel system to > insure that there is no water in the fuel, I remember one year here just > before the deer hunt a major supplier delivered thousands of gallons of auto > fuel to service stations in the area that was loaded with water needless to > say a lot of hunters didn't make the deer hunt it would have been worse if > it had been airplanes. In addition most major suppliers of overhauled and > new cylinders for engines comes with a warning Void warranty if auto fuel > used. There must be a reason! Also the suppliers of fuel bladders void their > warranty if auto fuel is used as the benzene in the fuel deteriorates the > rubber. And last but not least in most parts of the country they are adding > alcohol to the fuel to meet the clean air act. What does alcohol do to your > fuel system? An Ercoupe hardly justifies the risks involved a few pennies > earned when burning 5-8 gallons per hour aren't worth it. I wonder how many > aircraft are in the scrap heaps due to fuel contamination not only water but > other contaminants as well. Avgas is pretty cheap insurance. Jim N87349 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Percy Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Andy Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 11:43 PM > Subject: Re: [COUPERS-FLYIN] Ercoupe 415-CD Registration C-FXJK Nonfatal > > > > ----[Please read http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm before following any > advice in this forum.]---- > > > > > > At 03:39 PM 12/9/02 -0600, Andy Anderson wrote: > > > > >The accident information from the web page below verifies that one should > > >always sump the tanks after refueling. > > >http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id=20021206X05573&key=1 > > >NTSB Identification: NYC03LA028 > > > > > >Accident occurred Wednesday, December 04, 2002 at Dalton, MA > > >Aircraft:Ercoupe 415-CD, registration: C-FXJK > > >Injuries: 1 Uninjured. > > >-------------- > > >Examination of the wreckage revealed that the fluid inside the gascolator > > >had frozen. The FAA inspector added that although the pilot added 5 > gallons > > >of 100LL at GFL, he originally departed Canada with automobile gasoline. > > >The reported temperature at an airport approximately 5 miles west of the > > >accident site, at 1254, was 22 degrees F. > > >----------------- > > > > > >My question is,,, does Canadian automobile gasoline normally freeze,,, or > is > > >the examiner just trying to blow some smoke > > > > Or was he too lazy to go back to the last place the guy got gas and take a > > sample? > > Percy in Portland > > > > > > > ========================================================================== == > == > > To leave this forum go to: http://ercoupers.com/lists.htm > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > ---- > > > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.408 / Virus Database: 230 - Release Date: 10/24/02 > > > > ========================================================================== == == > To leave this forum go to: http://ercoupers.com/lists.htm > ========================================================================== ==== To leave this forum go to: http://ercoupers.com/lists.htm
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