Hi

What we have here (kernel lockups and glusterfs on the same machine)
might not be a co-incidence.

but it could be

There might well be a correlation -- but
by nature of the problem it is not right to treat this as a
cause-effect relation with glusterfs being the cause.

i think it's also not right to simply discard glusterfs being the
cause

It is just
not right to blame _any_ userspace application for any kind of kernel
lockups or hangs.

well, i'm to saying that this is glusterfs fault, what i'm saying
is that is very likely that glusterfs is at least triggering this
fault

So any hang or lockup in the kernel can only be
caused by a bug in itself, which could possibly be triggered by a
specific user application.

maybe, but don't you feel that this needs to be investigated in order
to know what is really happening ?

What we will be fixing is failing over to other machines when the
backend FS hangs. The reason why this was not a priority (so far
atleast) is because a kernel is a trusted piece of software in the
system, and when you are having a kernel which has a bug in the fs,
you should just upgrade to a newer kernel.

yes, but right now there is no evidence that this is a kernel bug.
From a user's point of view, if this did not happen when using nfs and
happens when using glusterfs the most evident solution is to switch back
to nfs (like you, we usually prefer to trust kernel stability against
application stability) and not do any kernel upgrade unless there is an
evidence that this is a kernel bug (as a kernel upgrade could mean having to upgrade many other pieces of software that were working ok
and that will need to be tested again).

What we promise to fix is a way to (as best
as possible) somehow translate a backend FS hang into a "subvolume
down" status and consider that subvolume to be down. After that, you
will _still_ continue to face kernel hangs and lockups and just
glusterfs will stop hanging. Your machines would still remain locked
up.

that's great !

--
Thanx & best regards ...

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