Please take your pro/con discussion of package management off line.
This is a gluster discussion list, not a sysadmin discussion list.
^C
Steve wrote:
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Datum: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 22:36:42 +0100
Von: Stephan von Krawczynski <[email protected]>
An: Ian Rogers <[email protected]>
CC: [email protected]
Betreff: Re: [Gluster-users] Setup for production - which one would you choose?
Ok, guys, honestly: it is allowed to learn (RMS fought for your right to
do so)
:-)
Really rarely in the open source universe you will find a piece of
software
that is as easy to compile and run as glusterfs. All you have to know
yourself
is how to use tar. Then enter the source directory and do "./configure ;
make ;
make install" What exactly is difficult to do? Why would you install
_some_
rpm that is outdated anyways (be it 2.0.9 or 3.0.2)?
Please don't tell you configure and drive LAMP but can't build glusterfs.
The docs for 5 apache config options are longer than the whole
glusterfs-source...
Sorry Stephan. But that is (sorry to write that): Bullshit.
The source of Gusterfs is not small at all.
Regarding installing source vs RPM: Well... I install EVERYTHING from source (except if it is a
closed source application). But I would never install from source if I would use a system that has
RPM as their packaging system. Then I would still build RPMS and install RPMS. It's not difficult
to make GlusterFS RPMS. Anyway... if you install everything from source by using "./configure
; make ; make install" then you probably have a ultra low amount of systems that you need to
take care of (try doing that thing on many systems and still keep track what you have installed and
what not). I would never ever pollute a system with "./configure ; make ; make install".
There is a reason for packaging systems (RPM, DEB and friends). I use btw Gentoo Linux and
installing from source is part of the idea behind Gentoo Linux.
--
Regards,
Stephan
Steve
PS: yes, I know it's the user-list.
On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 17:14:32 +0000
Ian Rogers <[email protected]> wrote:
I've just done part one of a writeup of my EC2 gluster LAMP installation
at
http://www.sirgroane.net/2010/03/distributed-file-system-on-amazon-ec2/
- may or may not be useful to you :-)
Ian
On 24/03/2010 17:09, Oliver Hoffmann wrote:
Yes, that's an idea. Thanx. That will be important for all the debian
clients, mostly lenny.
I think waiting and testing a month is quite ok though.
To have glusterfs 3.0.3 on ubuntu 9.10 you can also just install the
debian package for gluster 3.0.3 with dpkg -i.
http://packages.debian.org/source/sid/glusterfs
But then 10.04 is only a month away, so depends how much of a rush
your in!
On Wednesday 24 Mar 2010 16:45:40 Oliver Hoffmann wrote:
Haha, there are loads of Linux distributions out there and even
strange OSes like *BSD or windooze or what's it called? ;-)
I tried out Gentoo a while ago but I droped it because all the
compiling took way too long. The big plus here is the big minus on
debian like systems. The current Ubuntu 9.10 for example has
glusterfs 2.0.9, period. If you want to have 3.0.2 then you have to
wait for Ubuntu 10.04 or you compile it.
But now that we have (almost) 10.04 with 3.0.2 I'll take this way.
Having such a system up and running on recent hardware is a matter
of maybe 10 or 20 minutes.
Cheers!
On 22/03/2010 17:59, Oliver Hoffmann wrote:
Hi all,
I just made some tests on two old machines using Ubuntu 10.4
(server i386) with fuse-2.7.4glfs11 and glusterfs-3.0.3. At a
first glance it seems to be OK.
The next step is deploying a system which could be used for
production. What would you suggest? Ubuntu 10.4 (server 64bit)
is my first choice because of LTS. Whatsoever, I think it is
more the version of glusterfs which makes it stable or not,
isn't it? In the end I'd like to have a distributed&
replicated storage which provides data for a bunch of
(virtualized) LAMPS.
TIA for your recommendations!
I'm intrigued. I had not realised that there were other options
than Gentoo for use on a server?! (Bang up to date, flexible
configuration and strong support of various virtualisation
solutions. Slight negative in update speeds, but can be
mitigated by using a binary package cache)
Will try out those new fangled options you suggested above, but in
the meantime have a look at Gentoo (at least if you are fairly
confident with your linux skills). Big plug for linux-vservers
also, especially in combination with some custom server profiles
to define required software versions and options
Good luck
Ed W
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