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On 01/13/2016 09:44 AM, Pawan Devaiah wrote:
We would be looking for redundancy so replicated volumes I guess
If replication is going to be there, why additional RAID10? You can do just RAID6, it saves on space and replication in glusterfs will give redundancy anyways.

Pranith

Thanks,
Dev

On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 5:07 PM, Pranith Kumar Karampuri <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:



    On 01/13/2016 02:21 AM, Pawan Devaiah wrote:
    Thanks for the response Pranith

    If we take EC out of the equation and say I go with RAID on the
    physical disk, do you think GlusterFS is good for the 2 workloads
    that I mentioned before.

    Basically it is going to be a NFS storage for VM and data but
    with different RAIDs, 10 for VM and 6 for data.
    What will be the kind of volume you will be using with these disks?

    Pranith

    Thanks
    Dev

    On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 9:46 PM, Pranith Kumar Karampuri
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:



        On 01/12/2016 01:26 PM, Pawan Devaiah wrote:
        Thanks for your response Pranith and Mathieu,

        Pranith: To answer your question, I am planning to use this
        storage for two main workloads.

        1. As a shared storage for VMs.
        EC as it is today is not good for this.
        2. As a NFS Storage for files.
        If the above is for storing archive data. EC is nice here.

        Pranith


        We are a online backup company so we store few hundred Terra
        bytes of data.


        Mathieu: I appreciate your concern, however as a system
        admins sometimes we get paranoid and try to control
        everything under the Sun.
        I know I can only control what I can.

        Having said that, No, I have pair of servers to start with
        so at the moment I am just evaluating and preparing for
        proof of concept, after which I am going to propose to my
        management, if they are happy then we will proceed further.

        Regards,
        Dev

        On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 7:30 PM, Mathieu Chateau
        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
        wrote:

            Hello,

            For any system, 36 disks raise disk failure probability.
            Do you plan GlusterFS with only one server?

            You should think about failure at each level and be
            prepared for it:

              * Motherboard failure (full server down)
              * Disks failure
              * Network cable failure
              * File system corruption (time needed for fsck)
              * File/folder removed by mistake (backup)

            Using or not raid depend on your answer on these
            questions and performance needed.
            It also depend how "good" is raid controller in your
            server, like if it has battery and 1GB of cache.

            When many disks are bought at same time (1 order, serial
            number close to each other), they may fail in near time
            to each other (if something bad happened in manufactory).
            I already saw like 3 disks failing in few days.

            just my 2 cents,



            Cordialement,
            Mathieu CHATEAU
            http://www.lotp.fr

            2016-01-12 4:36 GMT+01:00 Pranith Kumar Karampuri
            <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>:



                On 01/12/2016 04:34 AM, Pawan Devaiah wrote:
                Hi All,

                We have a fairly powerful server sitting at office
                with 128 Gig RAM and 36 X 4 TB drives. I am
                planning to utilize this server as a backend
                storage with GlusterFS on it.
                I have been doing lot of reading on Glusterfs, but
                I do not see any definite recommendation on having
                RAID on GLUSTER nodes.
                Is it recommended to have RAID on GLUSTER nodes
                specially for the bricks?
                If Yes, is it not contrary to the latest Erasure
                code implemented in Gluster or is it still not
                ready for production environment?
                I am happy to implement RAID but my two main
                concern are
                1. I want to make most of the disk space available.
                2. I am also concerned about the rebuild time after
                disk failure on the RAID.
                What is the workload you have?

                We found in our testing that random read/write
                workload with Erasure coded volumes is not as good
                as we get with replication. There are enhancements
                in progress at the moment to address these things
                which we are yet to merge and re-test.

                Pranith

                Thanks
                Dev




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