On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 3:02 AM, Joe Julian <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 05/26/2017 11:38 PM, Pranith Kumar Karampuri wrote: > > > > On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 9:10 PM, Joe Julian <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Forwarded for posterity and follow-up. >> >> -------- Forwarded Message -------- >> Subject: Re: GlusterFS removal from Openstack Cinder >> Date: Fri, 05 May 2017 21:07:27 +0000 >> From: Amye Scavarda <[email protected]> <[email protected]> >> To: Eric Harney <[email protected]> <[email protected]>, Joe Julian >> <[email protected]> <[email protected]>, Vijay Bellur >> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> >> CC: Amye Scavarda <[email protected]> <[email protected]> >> >> Eric, >> I'm sorry to hear this. >> I'm reaching out internally (within Gluster CI team and CentOS CI which >> supports Gluster) to get an idea of the level of effort we'll need to >> provide to resolve this. >> It'll take me a few days to get this, but this is on my radar. In the >> meantime, is there somewhere I should be looking at for requirements to >> meet this gateway? >> >> Thanks! >> -- amye >> >> On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 16:09 Joe Julian <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> On 05/05/2017 12:54 PM, Eric Harney wrote: >>> >> On 04/28/2017 12:41 PM, Joe Julian wrote: >>> >>> I learned, today, that GlusterFS was deprecated and removed from >>> >>> Cinder as one of our #gluster (freenode) users was attempting to >>> >>> upgrade openstack. I could find no rational nor discussion of that >>> >>> removal. Could you please educate me about that decision? >>> >>> >>> > >>> > Hi Joe, >>> > >>> > I can fill in on the rationale here. >>> > >>> > Keeping a driver in the Cinder tree requires running a CI platform to >>> > test that driver and report results against all patchsets submitted to >>> > Cinder. This is a fairly large burden, which we could not meet once >>> the >>> > Gluster Cinder driver was no longer an active development target at >>> Red Hat. >>> > >>> > This was communicated via a warning issued by the driver for anyone >>> > running the OpenStack Newton code, and via the Cinder release notes for >>> > the Ocata release. (I can see in retrospect that this was probably not >>> > communicated widely enough.) >>> > >>> > I apologize for not reaching out to the Gluster community about this. >>> > >>> > If someone from the Gluster world is interested in bringing this driver >>> > back, I can help coordinate there. But it will require someone >>> stepping >>> > in in a big way to maintain it. >>> > >>> > Thanks, >>> > Eric >>> >>> Ah, Red Hat's statement that the acquisition of InkTank was not an >>> abandonment of Gluster seems rather disingenuous now. I'm disappointed. >>> >> > I am a Red Hat employee working on gluster and I am happy with the kind of > investments the company did in GlusterFS. Still am. It is a pretty good > company and really open. I never had any trouble saying something the > management did is wrong when I strongly felt and they would give a decent > reason for their decision. > > > Happy to hear that. Still looks like meddling to an outsider. Not the > Gluster team's fault though (although more participation of the developers > in community meetings would probably help with that feeling of being > disconnected, in my own personal opinion). > > > >> >>> Would you please start a thread on the gluster-users and gluster-devel >>> mailing lists and see if there's anyone willing to take ownership of >>> this. I'm certainly willing to participate as well but my $dayjob has >>> gone more kubernetes than openstack so I have only my limited free time >>> that I can donate. >>> >> > Do we know what would maintaining cinder as active entail? Did Eric get > back to any of you? > > > Haven't heard anything more, no. > > Policies for maintaining an active driver in cinder can be found at [1] and [2]. We will need some work to let the driver be active again (after a revert of the commit that removed the driver from cinder) and provide CI support as entailed in [2]. I will co-ordinate further internal discussions within Red Hat on this topic and provide an update soon on how we can proceed here. Thanks, Vijay [1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Cinder/how-to-contribute-a-driver [2] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Cinder/tested-3rdParty-drivers
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