@Stefan: Thank you. I‘ll stick to IPoIB for now, trusting that real bottlenecks 
will probably be elsewhere. At the moment on an almost empty node, gluster uses 
0.5-1 cores of 102.
I still hope that RDMA will be back sometime.

@Saju: Thanks for the clarifications. The main reason I “complained” publicly 
is that RDMA support 
(https://docs.gluster.org/en/latest/Administrator-Guide/RDMA-Transport/) in the 
official and current documentation has no indication in which versions it works 
or not. At least tiering is only mentioned as experimental in 3.7 and 
discontinued in release 6.

Rupert

Von: Stefan Solbrig <stefan.solb...@ur.de>
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 25. Februar 2021 16:37
An: gluster-users@gluster.org
Cc: Schlick Rupert <rupert.schl...@ait.ac.at>
Betreff: Re: [EXT] [Gluster-users] RDMA support in gluster 9

Hi Rupert,

If you try RMDA (or work on the older, now removed RMDA code in glusterfs that 
use(d) ibverbs, be aware that there was a glitch, at least as of glusterfs 
v3.12.7:  
https://lists.gluster.org/pipermail/gluster-users/2018-May/034135.html   A 
directory with tens of thousands of files did not show all directory entries.)  
I couldn't fix this back then and instead switched to ipoib.  Although the 
measured per-file bandwith back then was better with RDMA than with ipoib by 
about 50%, I stayed with ipoib because in the aggreate bandwith (many clients 
reading many files simultaneously) it didn't make a difference.  (Our 
bottlenecks are elsewhere, not in the network bandwidth between server and 
client.) I've used ipoib since then to run a glusterfs with more than 2 PB and 
haven't had serious problems so far.

best wishes,
Stefan



Am 24.02.2021 um 10:59 schrieb Saju Mohammed Noohu 
<sajmo...@redhat.com<mailto:sajmo...@redhat.com>>:

Hi Rupert,

Apologies for the inconvenience, even though this was discussed, somehow it got 
missed in official release notes or documentation.

Few old discussions are below:
https://github.com/gluster/glusterfs/issues/692
https://lists.gluster.org/pipermail/gluster-users/2018-July/034400.html

Will surely document this as part of Gluster docs on an appropriate heading.

As evident from the above discussions, we deprecated it since we had no means 
to support it. If that changes, we'll be happy to work on re-enabling it, maybe 
as a compile-time option.

Thanks
Saju




On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 1:23 PM Schlick Rupert 
<rupert.schl...@ait.ac.at<mailto:rupert.schl...@ait.ac.at>> wrote:
What surprised me is more that, if not looking into the developer channels, 
there is no indication that the feature is gone till it crashes when you try to 
use it. I did not think of Gluster as a developer-only tool, even in the 
“community version”.

Native RDMA support was the main reason for me to choose GlusterFS over MooseFS 
– although it’s just a feature on “paper” and I do not really know yet the real 
needs and bottlenecks of our new cluster. With both RDMA and tiering gone, I 
based my decision on completely outdated information about gluster features.

@strahil: I hope to find some time to try your suggestion next week, thanks. 
But even if it works, I will most probably not risk using something the 
developers consider not fit for use anymore. There seem also to be issues with 
mixed mode and multiple IP addresses anyway – our computation and storage nodes 
are on a infiniband (RDMA and IP over Infiniband) island network, but all are 
also connected to the outside via IP over Ethernet. The login nodes, which 
would also need access to the cluster file system are in a VM and only 
accessible via IP over Ethernet

Rupert

Von: Strahil Nikolov <hunter86...@yahoo.com<mailto:hunter86...@yahoo.com>>
Gesendet: Dienstag, 23. Februar 2021 11:20
An: Schlick Rupert <rupert.schl...@ait.ac.at<mailto:rupert.schl...@ait.ac.at>>; 
Saju Mohammed Noohu <sajmo...@redhat.com<mailto:sajmo...@redhat.com>>
Cc: gluster-users@gluster.org<mailto:gluster-users@gluster.org>
Betreff: Re: [Gluster-users] RDMA support in gluster 9

As everything deprecated, it never get's completely removed from source.

Can you try to 'make' from source and check if v9 by default has 'Infiniband 
verbs'  disabled ?
If yes, then you can compile with enabled supportand try that.

Best Regards,
Strahil Nikolov
On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 10:40, Schlick Rupert
<rupert.schl...@ait.ac.at<mailto:rupert.schl...@ait.ac.at>> wrote:
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