Thanks Zack. I understand the principle, it's the application that's
difficult. I have a lot of filters and tracking down exactly why a specific
message is triggering one is non-trivial. I've looked carefully and can't
see anything that would cause this. The filters for these lists are
extremely simple (basically just a match on "list: <list-address>") and
although occasionally I might get a message CCed to me directly, which
would explain it ending up in my Inbox, this is not the case with most of
them. These are high-traffic lists with lots of parallel threads, most of
which I don't participate in.

I've tried exporting the filter rules and searching for unsuspected
keywords in the XML file, but no dice.

It would be helpful if Gmail had a debugging option to trace exactly which
filters were triggered by a given message, but I don't know if such a thing
exists. Perhaps a new Labs feature? Maybe I'll suggest it.

poc


On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Zack (Doc) <[email protected]> wrote:

> Patrick,
>
> Have you checked your other filters and are sure none of them are firing
> on those messages?  I've had no problems with the "Skip Inbox" working for
> me, in fact this thread has been skipping it perfectly as it was set to do.
>  We have to remember that according to Google, all filters, including spam,
> act upon a message at once, and if they have contradictory actions, might
> cause unexpected results.  I've had a couple filters that did things like
> that, acted on messages I didn't intend, and found through experimentation
> which they were.  Then when I edited the filters to not hit the posts I
> didn't want them to hit, the problem went away.
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 5:01 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> (Replying to myself)
>>
>> I turned off the tabbed Inbox. It made no difference.
>>
>> poc
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, 13 July 2013 11:57:38 UTC+1, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>>>
>>> I use filters to classify several high-traffic mailing lists. Incoming
>>> mails are tagged with the appropriate label and do not appear in my Inbox.
>>> Thus I can review them at leisure without having to deal with each message
>>> as it arrives.
>>>
>>> Which is kind of the whole point of filters.
>>>
>>> This has worked perfectly for several years, but recently the "Skip
>>> Inbox" part of these filters has stopped working. Although the messages are
>>> correctly tagged, they all appear in my Inbox. I thus have to select them
>>> all and manually archive them to get the behaviour I want. This is
>>> especially difficult to do on an Android phone (nb: the Android Gmail app
>>> has no "select all" feature). I've careful reviewed the filters and can see
>>> nothing wrong. BTW I'm using "list:" as the matching criterion for these
>>> lists.
>>>
>>> I suspect this problem arose when the new Inbox tab feature appeared,
>>> but I can't be sure. Currently I have these messages classified as Forum
>>> and that pretty much works, but I still have to do the manual archiving,
>>> which frankly sucks. Note that the problem already existed *before* I
>>> actually set up the tabs thing, so it may be purely coincidence.
>>>
>>> I also have a Google Apps for Education account, with a similar setup
>>> (for a different set of mailing lists) and it still works perfectly.
>>>
>>> poc
>>>
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