Andy -

Zack pointed out that messages moved to Trash don't appear elsewhere in
Gmail, and you've reemphasized that fact. I wasn't aware of it, and it's
undoubtedly where my misunderstanding and "problem" began.

I do Archive emails, as I wrote in my last note to the group. For the rest,
even though I needed to ask the question about disappearing emails,I am a
person of average intelligence. Perhaps that didn't some through in my
earlier notes.

I'm hoping that I was just careless when I checked Trash and didn't find
"lost" emails in past weeks, and that a more careful search of Trash will
solve any future problems. You're right - I do know about the 6 month limit
for Trash.

Bill


On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 8:22 AM, Andy <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 8:17 AM, bill hansen <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> ​..
>> . The tip that these Group emails are automatically put in Trash, but
>> they are not stored in Sent Mail, Starred, Important, Drafts, etc.... as
>> Zack says, that doesn't seem to make sense,
>> ​...
>>
>
> ​Anything that is in Trash (or Spam) does not appear in any of your other
> Labels, Sent Mail, etc.  That is how Gmail works.  Yes, they might have
> those Labels attached to them, but Gmail excludes them from ordinary
> searches.  You only see deleted messages when you look in Trash (or when a
> search includes in:trash or in:anywhere).
>
> I "delete" these group messages for the same reason I "delete" most other
>> group messages.  I get about 70-100 email messages a day (not a lot by the
>> standards of many people, but still quite a few). If I left all of them on
>> my Gmail Inbox, in a couple of days they'd be buried.
>>
>
> ​If you don't want them in your Inbox, then take them out of your Inbox:
> Archive them!  You don't need to delete them.  There is no reason to fill
> your Inbox with everything you ever want to keep.  That is what the Archive
> button is for.​
>
> Archive = Keep this message but get it out of the Inbox.
>
> I routinely Archive every message the moment I read it, unless it needs
> further attention.
>
> I also Archive a lot of messages I haven't yet read, but don't want to
> throw out just yet.
>
> Messages which I want to keep for a very long time, months or longer, I
>> Move to Archived Mail, where I file them under one (or more) of several
>> subcategories.
>>
>
> ​Archiving does NOT move a message to some sort of different storage.  The
> only thing it does, is make it not be in the Inbox anymore.  It does not
> affect its appearance in All Mail, Sent Mail, Starred, any of your Labels
> ... nor your ability to search for it.
> ​
>
>> I'm positive that I didn't accidentally empty the Trash, as such. All the
>> other Trash is there. But now I know that I have to be much more careful
>> about checking Trash on the few occasions when I need to go back to a Group
>> email I've sent.
>>
>
> You know about the 30-day limit, where deleted messages vaporize.
>
> ​I'm not clear how your sent messages were deleted in the first place.
> Did you manually delete each one after you sent it?  Or do you have a
> Filter that somehow recognizes when you've sent a message to a certain
> group of people, and auto-deletes it?
>
> In any event, I would think that any message you have sent, is a good
> thing to keep around and never delete.  Unless you are filling up your 15GB.
>
> Andy
>
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