To be clear Andrew, this isn't a bug report. This is a public posting in a discussion group about GMail. It's no different than making your statement on Facebook. A proper bug report would be filed through the official google systems.
Not that you seem interested anymore, but if you'd like I could probably have my security friends send me about 3 dozen links on why self-signed certificates are less secure than the unencrypted communications you're talking about, and significantly more dangerous for companies to accept or have their users accept. And you don't trust the certificates of trusted roots by default, you trust them for the same reason you trust your bank or credit union with your money. I am assuming you do have an account where you keep some money, but if you don't, then my analogy breaks down, but then I'm not sure why you're trusting much of anything on the Internet at that point. On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 8:33 AM, Andrew Kay <[email protected]> wrote: > Sorry, what? This just doesn't make sense on any level. It's not in > Google's economic interest to make me buy a certificate which Google > doesn't sell. Importing mail from other accounts isn't a premium feature, > so there should be a way to do it without cleartext passwords or penalty to > other people. Allowing me to use Gmail's spam filters on imported mail > doesn't degrade Gmail for me and shouldn't affect anybody else. Neither > does allowing me to specify that I personally trust a particular > certificate. A certificate I explicitly trust is worth much more than a > certificate from a faceless private corporation that I'm assumed to trust > by default. > > Perhaps you also missed the part where Google started silently dropping > incoming messages sent between other people because of me doing what their > help pages told me to do. Silently dropping mail is not acceptable under > any circumstances (and is against the law for traditional mail), and > punishing a server I volunteer to receive mail from, based on the content > of that mail, is a dick move. > > There is no "sorry this feature isn't available, why don't you upgrade to > Gmail Gold Star Premium Platinum Plus Edition?" message, the feature used > to exist but was removed unannounced. If they really wanted me to buy Gmail > Gold Star Premium Platinum Plus Edition, I don't think they'd rely on you > to tell me about it in response to a bug report. > > -Andrew > > > On Friday, 27 March 2015 00:52:11 UTC, Marko V wrote: >> >> [...] >> -- >> Marko >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Gmail-Users" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/gmail-users. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Gmail-Users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/gmail-users. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
