Dear Wu,
I had exactly the same question to ask the users. I hope someone would give a better idea to generate gro and itp for a polymer of your choice molecular weight.

Currently, what I am doing is to create a smaller polymer using prodrg and manually extend the itp to the size I want. I know this is not the best way, however, since polymer topology has just same pattern, its easy to create the itp file.

However, to extend the gro file, we need to use the angle information and may be write a script.

I don't know if this a good idea??

Mohan



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   1. Re: Creation of an index file with seperate lipid leaflets
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   2. Re: pdb2gmx and protein DNA complexes (Erik Marklund)
   3. Re: pdb2gmx and protein DNA complexes (Erik Marklund)
   4. How to generate GRO and TOP file for high-number-atom
      polymer? (WU Yanbin)
   5. What if the atom number exceed 99999 for Gromacs file? (WU Yanbin)


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Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 11:32:20 -0600 (CST)
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Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Creation of an index file with seperate lipid
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Wasted work would be bad ;)

Rather than headgroup orientation, maybe try looking at atom distributions
along the bilayer normal direction.  Neutron scattering experiments show that
for atom groups far from the bilayer midplane, the corresponding z-coordinates
form two distinct distributions.  So one way could be the following. Pick a
headgroup atom and obtain its z-coordinate. Have make_ndx accept this value as
input. Search the system by looping over lipids and ask whether that atom type
has a z-coordinate within some amount around the input value. From this you
know the membership of the leaflets.  A more automatic way would be to have the
program first discern the distribution and then reread the system to decide the
leaflet membership.

Jay


On Wed, 8 Nov 2006, Alan Dodd wrote:
> Wouldn't shuffle/sort undo all the good work?  I did
> wonder if I should have labelled the lipids in
> different leaflets as different molecule types, or
> different chains, but it's a bit late now...
>
> --- Jay Mashl < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > On Wed, 8 Nov 2006, Alan Dodd wrote:
> > > Has anyone already created a way to generate an
> > index
> > > file with the atoms from the two leaflets of a
> > bilayer
> > > listed seperately?  I can't believe it hasn't
> > already
> > > been done, but can't find a direct description of
> > a
> > > solution.  I'm attempting a modification to
> > make_ndx,
> > > (or perhaps something considerably less ambitious,
> > > judging by the way it's going so far) to permit
> > lipid
> > > selection based on headgroup orientation, though
> > I'd
> > > quite like to save myself the effort.
> > > Incidentally, splitres and splitat seem to be the
> > > wrong way around, unless I'm misunderstanding them
> > -
> > > they do the opposite of what they say.  From the
> > > gromacs 3.3.1 source download I did on April of
> > this
> > > year.
> >
> > Reordering the lipids into leaflets in your starting
> > coordinate
> > file might be a good idea. If you anticipate lipid
> > exchange between leaflets,
> > then a more general tool like what you suggest would
> > be helpful.
> >
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Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 18:44:24 +0100
From: "Erik Marklund" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] pdb2gmx and protein DNA complexes
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Yes, very recently actually. What forcefield are you using? If you're using the AMBERXX-port, you might want to have a look at http://folding.stanford.edu/ffamber/. Regardless of your ff, make sure that the atoms in your pdb match the ones in ff[your_forcefield].rtp. Oh, and read the manual.

/Erik
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  Hi

  I am trying to simulate a protein DNA complex but I am stuck at the pdb2gmx stage as it gets stuck when it encounters a nucleotide.

  Program pdb2gmx, VERSION 3.3
  Source code file: resall.c , line: 438

  Fatal error:
  Residue 'C' not found in residue topology database

  The pdb segment is as follows:

  ATOM   1239  NZ  LYS B 513     -24.159  16.372 -25.774  1.00 51.42           N
  ATOM   1249  N1    C C   1     - 10.253   8.018  40.704  1.00 25.86           N

  Has anyone encountered this problem before?

  Regards
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Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 18:49:49 +0100
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...and not just the atoms. Make sure that the residue names are the correct ones for your forcefield. Apparently, the forcefield you're using does not have a 'C'-residue.

/Erik
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  Yes, very recently actually. What forcefield are you using? If you're using the AMBERXX-port, you might want to have a look at http://folding.stanford.edu/ffamber/. Regardless of your ff, make sure that the atoms in your pdb match the ones in ff[your_forcefield].rtp. Oh, and read the manual.

  /Erik
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    Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 6:08 PM
    Subject: [gmx-users] pdb2gmx and protein DNA complexes


    Hi

    I am trying to simulate a protein DNA complex but I am stuck at the pdb2gmx stage as it gets stuck when it encounters a nucleotide.

    Program pdb2gmx, VERSION 3.3
    Source code file: resall.c, line: 438

    Fatal error:
    Residue 'C' not found in residue topology database

    The pdb segment is as follows:

    ATOM   1239  NZ  LYS B 513     -24.159  16.372 -25.774  1.00 51.42            N
    ATOM   1249  N1    C C   1     - 10.253   8.018  40.704  1.00 25.86           N

    Has anyone encountered this problem before?

    Regards
    Debo

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Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 16:32:11 -0600
From: "WU Yanbin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [gmx-users] How to generate GRO and TOP file for
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Hi,
   Genearlly I generate GRO and TOP file for polymer using PRODRG. But
PRODRG does not work when the atom number of the polymer exceeds 300. So can
anyone recommend other software and method? Thanks.

Yours Sincerely,

WU Yanbin
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Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 18:11:42 -0600
From: "WU Yanbin" < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [gmx-users] What if the atom number exceed 99999 for Gromacs
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Hi,
     I built up a box of polymer with box size 20x20x20 and then solvate the
box with water using Genbox. Thus the total atom number exceeds 99999 and I
found that the atom number starts from zero when it exceeds 99999. Does it
matter for the ongoing command "grompp" and "mdrun"? Thanks.

Yours Sincerely,

WU Yanbin

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