Hi Kitty,

Such a solution is unsatisfactory, as it seems that you're masking an
underlying cause. Now, I'm not sure of your other parameters, but when
using a cut-off (do you use reaction-field) you would usually (gromos
force field) use a twin-range of 0.9/1.4, which is what the force
field was parameterized for.

If you look at the energies in order to find the cause of a crash, you
want to look for the energy term first displaying strange behaviour.
You also may want to try setting the neighbour list update to every
step.

And please, don't use html formatted e-mails... :)

Hope it helps,

Tsjerk


On 3/8/07, kitty ji <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




Tsjerk Wassenaar, thank you very much for you suggestion even if most of
them have been manipulated.



"Write out the energies at every step and check which of the energy
contributions goes astray. This may give you a good clue to where
you're mistake is. Also, run through the topology again, by hand,
checking all bonds, angles, dihedrals, exclusion (implicit ones!),
etc."

when the explosion happened, the energy of bond, angle and potential will
were increase. And the topology has been checked several times.





Now I increase the cutoff of VDW & Coulomb from 0.9 to 1.5. The system looks
ok from last night to this time. If the problem is fixed, I conclude that
cutoff 0.9 is not enough for electric system.



Hope this conclusion is helpful for GMX users.



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Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 17:49:30 +0100
From: "Tsjerk Wassenaar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Re: [gmx-users] vacuum right but melt collapse
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Hi Ji Qing,

Write out the energies at every step and check which of the energy
contributions goes astray. This may give you a good clue to where
you're mistake is. Also, run through the topology again, by hand,
checking all bonds, angles, dihedrals, exclusion (implicit ones!),
etc.

Good luck,

Tsjerk

On 3/7/07, kitty ji <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
>
> Thanks Mark.
> But when one polymer chain was used, non-bonded interaction has already
been
> there. Because one chain means C44H156O22.
> After all, I'd like to try more chains.
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 17:01:52 +1100
> From: Mark Abraham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Subject: Re: [gmx-users] vacuum right but melt collapse
> To: Discussion list for GROMACS users <[email protected]>
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=GB2312
>
> kitty ji wrote:
> > Hi GMX user:
> >
> > A model for Poly(vinyl methyl ether) was built with OPLS force field (
> > all H ).
> >
> >
> >
> > When the model was run alone (a single chain) in vacuum, anything goes
ok.
> >
> >
> >
> > But with 45 chains box, the system will be collapse with a little bond
> > elongates abnormal whatever in NVT or NPT.
> >
> >
> >
> > The relax time of pressure and temperature were adjust but no helpful.
> >
> >
> >
> > How can I found some possible reason and then fix it ? Any advise will
> > be appreciated.
>
> If an isolated molecule doesn't do anything strange, and two more more
> do, then you have a problem with inter-molecular interactions, i.e. the
> non-bonded ones. Try with just 2 chains to verify this... and look
> carefully at the atom types and the non-bonded parameters for them.
>
> Mark
>
>
>
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