Justin M. Shorb wrote:
Greetings!

I have been running gromacs to simulate a chromophore (NMAd) in water. I have verified that the coulombic force is calculated correctly by doing a rerun of the simulation trajectory and extracting the forces from a forcefield of vanishing force constants (thus removing all vdW and bonded terms). This works, although it is fairly brute-force.

Now, I am trying to scale up and look at a single peptide Amide-I band in a transmembrane protein. Unfortunately, if I use the same mdp file, I get different results than if I use the mdp file with which the production run was generated.

I don't understand your meaning here.

By gmxdump-ing the tpr files, I can figure out the differences between the run files. I verified that varying PME parameters cause a negligible effect, and most of the basic I/O parameters of course shouldn't matter.

The biggest difference between the two files is that one reports zero for the multinr and uses nr=0 and nra=0, whereas the other tpr file reports 123 for the multinr, nr=123, nra=6326, and then specifies blocks[SBLOCKS][...]

Um, no there are huge differences here. One uses temperature and pressure coupling and the other doesn't. One has cut-offs at 1.4nm, the other 1nm. There's many more as well....

Mark

====
1c1
< PM/memb.tpr: Run with the T-coupling groups, etc.
---
> cd3z_mdr2.tpr: Run with nothing fancy, mdr file from the single chromophore in water
15c15
<       nsteps               = 20000
---
 >       nsteps               = 0
18c18
<       nstlist              = 10
---
 >       nstlist              = 1
22c22
<       nstcomm              = 10
---
 >       nstcomm              = 1
24,30c24,30
<       nstcheckpoint        = 10
<       nstlog               = 10
<       nstxout              = 10
<       nstvout              = 10
<       nstfout              = 10
<       nstenergy            = 10
<       nstxtcout            = 10
---
 >       nstcheckpoint        = 1000
 >       nstlog               = 10000
 >       nstxout              = 0
 >       nstvout              = 0
 >       nstfout              = 0
 >       nstenergy            = 10000
 >       nstxtcout            = 50000
32,38c32,38
<       delta_t              = 0.0005
<       xtcprec              = 10
<       nkx                  = 54
<       nky                  = 54
<       nkz                  = 54
<       pme_order            = 4
<       ewald_rtol           = 1e-05
---
 >       delta_t              = 0.002
 >       xtcprec              = 1000
 >       nkx                  = 32
 >       nky                  = 32
 >       nkz                  = 32
 >       pme_order            = 6
 >       ewald_rtol           = 1e-06
41c41
<       optimize_fft         = TRUE
---
 >       optimize_fft         = FALSE
45,48c45,48
<       etc                  = Nose-Hoover
<       epc                  = Parrinello-Rahman
<       epctype              = Anisotropic
<       tau_p                = 3
---
 >       etc                  = No
 >       epc                  = No
 >       epctype              = Isotropic
 >       tau_p                = 1
50,52c50,52
<          ref_p[    0]={ 1.00000e+00,  1.00000e+00,  1.00000e+00}
<          ref_p[    1]={ 1.00000e+00,  1.00000e+00,  1.00000e+00}
<          ref_p[    2]={ 1.00000e+00,  1.00000e+00,  1.00000e+00}
---
 >          ref_p[    0]={ 0.00000e+00,  0.00000e+00,  0.00000e+00}
 >          ref_p[    1]={ 0.00000e+00,  0.00000e+00,  0.00000e+00}
 >          ref_p[    2]={ 0.00000e+00,  0.00000e+00,  0.00000e+00}
54,56c54,56
<          compress[    0]={ 4.50000e-05,  0.00000e+00,  0.00000e+00}
<          compress[    1]={ 0.00000e+00,  4.50000e-05,  0.00000e+00}
<          compress[    2]={ 0.00000e+00,  0.00000e+00,  4.50000e-05}
---
 >          compress[    0]={ 0.00000e+00,  0.00000e+00,  0.00000e+00}
 >          compress[    1]={ 0.00000e+00,  0.00000e+00,  0.00000e+00}
 >          compress[    2]={ 0.00000e+00,  0.00000e+00,  0.00000e+00}
58c58
<       rlist                = 1
---
 >       rlist                = 1.4
61c61
<       rcoulomb             = 1
---
 >       rcoulomb             = 1.4
64c64
<       rvdw                 = 1
---
 >       rvdw                 = 1.4
110,112c110,112
<       userint1             = 0
<       userint2             = 0
<       userint3             = 0
---
 >       userint1             = 1
 >       userint2             = 4
 >       userint3             = 40
119,123c119,123
<       nrdf:            1689       21915       11064
<       ref_t:             310         310         310
<       tau_t:             0.3         0.3         0.3
< anneal:                  No          No          No
< ann_npoints:               0           0           0
---
 >       nrdf:           40893
 >       ref_t:               0
 >       tau_t:               0
 > anneal:                  No
 > ann_npoints:               0
126,128c126
<       energygrp_flags[  0]: 0 0 0
<       energygrp_flags[  1]: 0 0 0
<       energygrp_flags[  2]: 0 0 0
---
 >       energygrp_flags[  0]: 0
159c157
<    nosehoover_xi:               0           0           0
---
 >    nosehoover_xi:               0
17445,34727c17443,34725
---
34733,34742c34731,34740
---
34747,52017c34745,52015
< grp[0] nr=3, name=[ Protein Solvent DMPC]
< grp[1] nr=3, name=[ Protein Solvent DMPC]
---
 > grp[0] nr=1, name=[ rest]
 > grp[1] nr=1, name=[ rest]
52020c52018
< grp[4] nr=1, name=[ rest]
---
> grp[4] nr=41, name=[ LEU31_1 LEU34_1 ISO38_1 LEU39_1 ISO41_1 GLY43_1 VAL44_1 ISO45_1 LEU46_1 LEU49_1 LEU31_2 LEU34_2 ISO38_2 LEU39_2 ISO41_2 GLY43_2 VAL44_2 ISO45_2 LEU46_2 LEU49_2 LEU31_3 LEU34_3 ISO38_3 LEU39_3 ISO41_3 GLY43_3 VAL44_3 ISO45_3 LEU46_3 LEU49_3 LEU31_4 LEU34_4 ISO38_4 LEU39_4 ISO41_4 GLY43_4 VAL44_4 ISO45_4 LEU46_4 LEU49_4 rest]
52022c52020
< grp[6] nr=3, name=[ Protein Solvent DMPC]
---
 > grp[6] nr=1, name=[ rest]
90461c90459
<          grpname (24):
---
 >          grpname (64):
90485c90483,90523
<             grpname[23]={name="rest"}
---
 >             grpname[23]={name="LEU31_1"}
...
 >             grpname[62]={name="LEU49_4"}
 >             grpname[63]={name="rest"}
124641,125427c124679,124681
< multinr[division over processors]: 123 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
<             nr=123
<             nra=6326
<             blocks[SBLOCKS][0][0..212]={0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10,
<                11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24,
<                25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38,
<                39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50, 51, 52,
<                53, 54, 55, 56, 57, 58, 59, 60, 61, 62, 63, 64, 65, 66,
<                67, 68, 69, 70, 71, 72, 73, 74, 75, 76, 77, 78, 79, 80,
<                81, 82, 83, 84, 85, 86, 87, 88, 89, 90, 91, 92, 93, 94,
< 95, 96, 97, 98, 99, 100, 101, 102, 103, 104, 105, 106, 107, < 108, 109, 110, 111, 112, 113, 114, 115, 116, 117, 118, 119, < 120, 121, 122, 123, 124, 125, 126, 127, 128, 129, 130, 131, < 132, 133, 134, 135, 136, 137, 138, 139, 140, 141, 142, 143, < 144, 145, 146, 147, 148, 149, 150, 151, 152, 153, 154, 155, < 156, 157, 158, 159, 160, 161, 162, 163, 164, 165, 166, 167, < 168, 169, 170, 171, 172, 173, 174, 175, 176, 177, 178, 179, < 180, 181, 182, 183, 184, 185, 186, 187, 188, 189, 190, 191, < 192, 193, 194, 195, 196, 197, 198, 199, 200, 201, 202, 203,
<                204, 205, 206, 207, 208, 209, 210, 211, 212}
...
<             blocks[SBLOCKS][4][852..897]={852, 853, 854, 855, 856, 857,
< 858, 859, 860, 861, 862, 863, 864, 865, 866, 867, 868, 869, < 870, 871, 872, 873, 874, 875, 876, 877, 878, 879, 880, 881, < 882, 883, 884, 885, 886, 887, 888, 889, 890, 891, 892, 893,
<                894, 895, 896, 897}
<                6325}
...
---
> multinr[division over processors]: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
 >             nr=0
 >             nra=0
125431c124685
<          ntypes=9
---
 >          ntypes=22
125433,125440c124687,124707
< functype[1]=ANGLES, thA= 0.00000e+00, ctA= 0.00000e+00, thB= 0.00000e+00, ctB= 0.00000e+00 < functype[2]=PDIHS, phiA= 0.00000000e+00, cpA= 0.00000000e+00, phiB= 0.00000000e+00, cpB= 0.00000000e+00, mult=2 < functype[3]=PDIHS, phiA= 0.00000000e+00, cpA= 0.00000000e+00, phiB= 0.00000000e+00, cpB= 0.00000000e+00, mult=6 < functype[4]=PDIHS, phiA= 0.00000000e+00, cpA= 0.00000000e+00, phiB= 0.00000000e+00, cpB= 0.00000000e+00, mult=3 < functype[5]=IDIHS, xiA= 0.00000e+00, cxA= 0.00000e+00, xiB= 0.00000e+00, cxB= 0.00000e+00 < functype[6]=LJ14, c6A= 0.00000000e+00, c12A= 0.00000000e+00, c6B= 0.00000000e+00, c12B= 0.00000000e+00
<             functype[7]=CONSTR, dA= 0.00000000e+00, dB= 0.00000000e+00
<             functype[8]=SETTLE, doh= 1.00000001e-01, dhh= 1.63299993e-01
---
> functype[1]=BONDS, b0A= 0.00000e+00, cbA= 0.00000e+00, b0B= 0.00000e+00, cbB= 0.00000e+00 > functype[2]=ANGLES, thA= 1.21000e+02, ctA= 0.00000e+00, thB= 1.21000e+02, ctB= 0.00000e+00 > functype[3]=ANGLES, thA= 1.15000e+02, ctA= 0.00000e+00, thB= 1.15000e+02, ctB= 0.00000e+00 > functype[4]=ANGLES, thA= 1.24000e+02, ctA= 0.00000e+00, thB= 1.24000e+02, ctB= 0.00000e+00 > functype[5]=ANGLES, thA= 1.23000e+02, ctA= 0.00000e+00, thB= 1.23000e+02, ctB= 0.00000e+00 > functype[6]=ANGLES, thA= 1.22000e+02, ctA= 0.00000e+00, thB= 1.22000e+02, ctB= 0.00000e+00 > functype[7]=ANGLES, thA= 1.09500e+02, ctA= 0.00000e+00, thB= 1.09500e+02, ctB= 0.00000e+00 > functype[8]=ANGLES, thA= 1.11000e+02, ctA= 0.00000e+00, thB= 1.11000e+02, ctB= 0.00000e+00 > functype[9]=ANGLES, thA= 1.20000e+02, ctA= 0.00000e+00, thB= 1.20000e+02, ctB= 0.00000e+00 > functype[10]=ANGLES, thA= 1.17000e+02, ctA= 0.00000e+00, thB= 1.17000e+02, ctB= 0.00000e+00 > functype[11]=ANGLES, thA= 1.26000e+02, ctA= 0.00000e+00, thB= 1.26000e+02, ctB= 0.00000e+00 > functype[12]=ANGLES, thA= 0.00000e+00, ctA= 0.00000e+00, thB= 0.00000e+00, ctB= 0.00000e+00 > functype[13]=PDIHS, phiA= 1.80000000e+02, cpA= 0.00000000e+00, phiB= 1.80000000e+02, cpB= 0.00000000e+00, mult=2 > functype[14]=PDIHS, phiA= 1.80000000e+02, cpA= 0.00000000e+00, phiB= 1.80000000e+02, cpB= 0.00000000e+00, mult=6 > functype[15]=PDIHS, phiA= 0.00000000e+00, cpA= 0.00000000e+00, phiB= 0.00000000e+00, cpB= 0.00000000e+00, mult=3 > functype[16]=PDIHS, phiA= 0.00000000e+00, cpA= 0.00000000e+00, phiB= 0.00000000e+00, cpB= 0.00000000e+00, mult=6 > functype[17]=PDIHS, phiA= 0.00000000e+00, cpA= 0.00000000e+00, phiB= 0.00000000e+00, cpB= 0.00000000e+00, mult=2 > functype[18]=IDIHS, xiA= 0.00000e+00, cxA= 0.00000e+00, xiB= 0.00000e+00, cxB= 0.00000e+00 > functype[19]=IDIHS, xiA= 3.52640e+01, cxA= 0.00000e+00, xiB= 3.52640e+01, cxB= 0.00000e+00 > functype[20]=LJ14, c6A= 0.00000000e+00, c12A= 0.00000000e+00, c6B= 0.00000000e+00, c12B= 0.00000000e+00 > functype[21]=SETTLE, doh= 1.00000001e-01, dhh= 1.63299993e-01
125442c124709,130930
<             nr: 0
---
 >             nr: 18657
 >             multinr[division over processors]: 18657
 >             iatoms:
125459,133037c130947,138525
---
133052,135351c138540,140839
---
135360,136204c140848,141692
---
136211,141245c141699,146733
---
141291,147512c146779
<             nr: 18657
<             multinr[division over processors]: 18657
<             iatoms:
---
 >             nr: 0
147519,151169c146786,150436
---
151199,151200c150466,150467
< T-Coupling  :     852  10957   5474  (total 17283 atoms)
< Energy Mon. :     852  10957   5474  (total 17283 atoms)
---
 > T-Coupling  :   17283  (total 17283 atoms)
 > Energy Mon. :   17283  (total 17283 atoms)
151203c150470
< User1       :   17283  (total 17283 atoms)
---
> User1 : 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 17123 (total 17283 atoms)
151205c150472
< VCM         :     852  10957   5474  (total 17283 atoms)
---
 > VCM         :   17283  (total 17283 atoms)
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