Tree wrote:
Dear Justin and All :


As I mentioned below, I want to check if my "processed" topology (by grompp) is right or not.
Therefore,
   1) What does the "processed" topology file normally have inside-?

Replace each #include statement with the text of the file that it calls.

2) Is it right if the "processed" topology has *ALL* of the information from oplsaa.rtp and opls*.itp.


There should be no information from the .rtp, but yes, the entirety of ffoplsaa.itp (with the nb.itp and bon.itp) should be present.

As long as grompp does not report errors, then each of your specifications (bonds, angles, atom types, etc) are present under the force field. The processed topology is just an explicit confirmation of these parameters all in one file.

-Justin

Thank you!


Sincerely yours,

C Kim
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From: *Tree* <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:11 AM
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] How to define "stretch" in ffoplsaabon.itp ?
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>


Dear Justin:



On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Justin A. Lemkul <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:



    Tree wrote:

        Dear Justin:


        Thank you for your answer!!
        Yes, I found there is already a bond defined for CT and CT,
        meanwhile I am waiting response from gmx-uses. I deleted mine!

        To confirm, I cannot avoid to ask you a question again.
        So, please let me explain...
        Sections [ bonds ], [pairs], [angles] and etc. in the
        "topol.top" show the information on what interaction (and how)
        exist among atoms in those sections.
        Real potential values are interpreted (assigned) when I run
        "grompp" to get "tpr" file.
        --- Is this right?


    Yes.



        If this is right, I do not understand why I am not able to have
        new "topol_new.top" file when I use "-pp topol_new.top" with
        "grompp".
        There is no error message...


    It isn't produced?


It is produced.
However, it seems having ALL the informations from '.atp', 'bon.itp' and 'nb.itp'... Since I guessed that I would get a "processed" topology file having information, which was blank in the original topology file, this looks pretty weird...


        --- What does the "-pp" option generate when doing grompp-?


    The -pp option gives you a "processed" topology, explicitly showing
    every parameter that grompp assembled.


Yes... That is what I understood...
Since I do not think I had an appropriate "processed" topology, I guessed that there may be different meaning.
Thank you for your confirmation.


        Regarding the assignment of opls_xxx to atom type is, I think,
        well described in the file, "csoplsaanb.itp".


    Is that some sort of modified form of ffoplsaanb.itp?  Often times a
    more detailed explanation is found in the .atp file for the
    corresponding force field.

    -Justin

        Thank you again!


        Sincerely

        C Kim

        On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Justin A. Lemkul
        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
        <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:



           Tree wrote:

               Dear All:


               *[1 - Situation]*
               I am trying to define "stretch" between two bonded atoms (for
               example, in my system PE (polyethylene), C-C).

               *[2 - ffoplsaa.rtp file]*
               In ffoplsaa.rtp file, I assigned   C1    >     opls_136
                 C2    >     opls_135
               This can be done by my own idea, so it does not bother
        anything.
               And totally okay.

               *[3 - opls_xxx and atom type]*
               I found that the oplsaa interpret those "opls_xxx" atoms
        to atom
               types (which are in ffoplsaabon.itp file) as follows,
                 opls_136     >     CT
                 opls_135     >     CT.

( from a file containing opls_136 CT 6 12.01100 -0.120 A 3.50000e-01 2.76144e-01 opls_137 CT 6 12.01100 -0.060 A 3.50000e-01
                2.76144e-01
               )

               *[4 - ffoplsaabon.itp]*
               Based on the information in the section [2] and [3] above, I
               added following two sentences in the ffoplsaabon.itp file.

                 [ bondtypes ]
                 ; i    j  func       b0          kb
                   CT    CT      1    0.14900   334720.0   ;


           There is already a CT-CT bond defined in ffoplsaabon.itp:

            CT    CT      1    0.15290   224262.4   ; CHARMM 22
        parameter file

           If you don't want those parameters, make sure you comment out
        that
           line so you know which parameters you are actually using!

               *[5 - pdb2gmx result]*

               Until the section [4], I have new ffoplsaabon.itp file,
        so I ran
               pdb2gmx for my PE system.
               After that, when I looked at the topology file (e.g.
        topol.top),
               I could not find any information in the [ bonds ] section
        (after
               the [ atoms ] section).
               In other words, topol.top shows nothing in [ bonds ] section.
                   [ bonds ]
; ai aj funct c0 c1 c2
                         c3
                       1     2     1


           It's not showing nothing.  Atoms 1 and 2 are bonded together.  As
           long as there are parameters defined in ffoplsaabon.itp, then
        grompp
           will interpret the topology correctly.  If grompp fails, then you
           have identified a problem.

               *[6 - Question!]*

               I think my mistake came from section [3] or [4].
                 (1) Would you please let me know what I did wrong...?


           Nothing so far that I can see (aside from potentially duplicating
           parameters).


                 (2) If someone is familiar with defining stretch, angle,
               dihedral and torsion in ffoplsaabon.itp, would you please
        give
               me an idea on how-to?


           How do you define "stretch"?  The force constant for how much the
           bond length can deviate?  Otherwise, all bonded parameters are
           assigned by pdb2gmx as long as all atom types are defined.


                 (3) Would you please summarize how the gromacs maps
        opls_xxx
               with atom type (C, CT... etc)?


           Read ffoplsaa.atp.

           -Justin

               *[7 - Thank you!]*

               Thank you so much your participation and help!!!


               Sincerely,

               Kim


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