Ilya Chorny wrote:
Ok, I got it. Set electrostatics to PME-switch. Made rcoulomb-switch .1 less than rcoulomb and set rlist accordingly and now I am conserving energy. Yipee!!!

It did not make sense to me that the system had to be fully relaxed to conserve energy. It should conserve energy energy as long as it has been minimized and has no major clashes.
This is correct, provided T and P coupling are turned off.


Thanks,

Ilya


On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 7:38 PM, Ilya Chorny <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    If I plot the K.E(t) and P.E.(t) they are both going down. In an NVE
    simulation they should counter balance. I am leaking K.E. somewhere.
    I reran with a relaxed P.E(t) and saw the same behavior.  This is
    happening both at 2 and 4 fs so its not a time step issue. Any
    thoughts?  I thought it might be COM removal so I turned it off to
no avail.
    Any chance one of the Gromacs people can give me the mdp file from
the DHFR simulation in the 4.0 paper.

    On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 10:21 PM, Mark Abraham
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        Ilya Chorny wrote:

            Forgot column labels on energies.
Average RMSD Fluct. Drift Tot-Drift 2 fs time step Total Energy 46497.2 36445.6 2630.7 -148.833 -148833 4 fs time step Total Energy 41580.8 37693.4 2856.08 -130.198 -130198

            On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 7:17 PM, Ilya Chorny
            <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
            <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:

               Hello All,

               I am trying to run some calibration calculations with 2/4
            fs time
               steps. I am trying to reproduce the results in the
            Gromacs 4.0 paper
               on a protein/water (not the same protein) system with
            ~100K atoms. I
               ran 1 ns simulation in the NVE ensemble. My mdp params
            are shown
               below. Topolgy was created using -vsite h. My system has
            218441
               degrees of freedom according to GMXDUMP. My P.E. energy
            is ~ -1E5
               and has not full relaxed after 1ns but is close.
2 fs time step Total Energy 46497.2 36445.6 2630.7 -148.833 -148833 4 fs time step Total Energy 41580.8 37693.4 2856.08 -130.198 -130198

               Drift (kt/ns) 2fs/4fs = .34/.29

               The drift seems to be much larger for both the 2fs and
            4fs time
               steps then in the paper. Do I have a clear bug in my
            params? Should
               I wait till the system fully relaxes before doing the
            drift calculation?


        You should definitely equilibrate the system before trying to
        measure energy drift. I suggest doing so in NPT to fix your
        density and temperature, then switching to NVE, wait a bit, and
        only then start to collect your data.

               coulombtype              = PME
               rcoulomb                 = 1.0

               fourierspacing           = 0.12
               ; FFT grid size, when a value is 0 fourierspacing will be
            used
               fourier_nx               = 0
               fourier_ny               = 0
               fourier_nz               = 0
               ; EWALD/PME/PPPM parameters
               pme_order                = 4
               ewald_rtol               = 1.e-04


        I would think the ewald_rtol value used in the paper was 1e-5,
        but it is unfortunately not stated. The different numbers will
        lead to different costs and accuracies for the direct and FFT
        parts of the PME algorithm.

        rcoulomb, fourier_whatever, pme_order and ewald_rtol are all
        relevant if you're trying to reproduce results.

        Mark
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